Oraenor

many of u guys out there enjoy MMA but how many of you guys here believe that you should only mix when you have achieved a certain level?

In my opinion it is more sensible not to do MMA until you have reached to a point where you understand your primary art properly before going out and learning somthing else. It is also more respectful to your teacher and school where they dont have these half arsed effort punks running around blaming the school for their incompetence.

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boslotlosbot

Mixing or crosstraining Japanese Jujutsu with Wingchun kungfu

a highly qualified two arts to defeat MMA

jeff5

I honestly don't know if you should be at a certain level to do it, but I think cross training in different arts is essential to become a well rounded martial artists. Even if you keep one system as your main, you should still cross train.

aku aku

Like anything else, I think it depends. If you train two arts with a similar type of structure you might be ok but if you train arts that are radically different I think it could lead to confusion. Also people are different, some might do well with it and others might not.

boslotlosbot

since WINGCHUN has no grappling arts, it is recommended to crosstrain with JAPANESE JUJUTSU since 75% of the fights are groundfight finishing.

you know? BRUCE LEE is very wise, this is also his idea, he has long range, short range, groundfights, internal, external, mostly kungfu, and overall he named it JEET KUNE DO

crosstraining with a different arts to fit the fighting situation you can also name it JEET KUNE DO or any name for your new martial art

you must be like water, you put water into a cup it becomes a cup ;-)

aku aku

That's a good point. I was thinking along the lines of maybe wingchun and choy li fut or western boxing and pa kua. In a case like that I think you would have to use one type of structure or the other, it would be hard to do both.

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WildWest.

Ignore this crap.

My opinion Oraenor, and this is only because of my first hand experience, is that you reach a considerably high grade in one style before you begin to cross train. For me it was BB before switching to MT and now I do MT and Hapkido. Some people can get away with it earlier, it's up to the individual, but I believe you need to be sure you know the principles of one style and can apply them, before you move on. Then after some more time you will begin to mix them and create your own style and your own style is always the best.

It comes down to experience really as so many techniques within different MA's cross over, and the more you train the easier it will be to pick up a new technique or style.

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boslotlosbot

i like this quote, sure

Oraenor

75% is a statistic with no evidence behind it, I believe most fights finish with 2-3 swings before someone runs away.

Bruce lee reached a certain level before he focused his study on other arts, hence why the basis of JKD is wing chun

To put water in the cup, you must have a cup first, filling it up is up to you.

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jingshen

After several years working pubs and nightclub doors i can honestly say i never ended up on the ground. Having spent sometime training with BJJ bluebelts i undersatnd the need to Understand what they do but i think it's important to make your own art work. Understand but no to mix...if u know what i mean.

WildWest.

Make your own art work?? I understand that...to a point, but no to mixing?? I don't understand what you mean so please elaborate?

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jingshen

I mean the art that you practice. Make it work. I just think taht some people today are too quick to look elsewhere for answers or new techniques when generally you can find them within what you practice.

Mephariel

I don't think you should make your art work. See, there is a difference between not training enough to fight and training in a flaw system. If your art works, and you gave up too easily, that is one thing...but if you art doesn't work at all, you shouldn't have to make it work. You should move on to something else.

Tom Yum

Its a matter of preferences.

Most TMAs can work if you shave off things that don't work. Its like the JKD concept. The guy who takes an art, looses a few fights, but sharpens up each time until he wins is not only a winner in the end, but an innovator.

Not to mention some of the martial arts masters who CAN make their systems work, but prefer teaching.

This line is a often used as a typical objection/cop out by many TMA practitioners who aren't into sparring or suck at it, but with many of the masters in a few systems its a truth.

Some even welcome challenges and believe you me, their systems work....

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