Fa Jin video

Tee Sok · 02-23-2007, 07:25 AM

Here's a nice video on Fa Jin.

Some of the pushes are really amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=967f3...elated&search=

kiddbjj · 02-23-2007, 08:53 AM

and the oscar goes to... that guy

Tee Sok · 02-23-2007, 12:34 PM

I saw it a few times, it looks real to me.

In some pushes he performs the guy just takes off, you can't push yourself backwards like that.

BoarSpear · 02-23-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tee Sok

I saw it a few times, it looks real to me.

In some pushes he performs the guy just takes off, you can't push yourself backwards like that.

I agree it looks real

...Funny.

knifethrower · 02-23-2007, 08:50 PM

Fukin funny Boar!----

wish I could see it! my vids fucked....

BTW why the fuk would anyone want to push in a fight? I don't give a fuk how far you push him...he'll just get back up and kick your @ss------

BoarSpear · 02-23-2007, 09:03 PM

they're authorities on subjects they have little experience or knowledge of.

Tom Yum · 02-23-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoarSpear

Its sad to see just how Fukked up Taiji is today because of the damage the one mistake of translating "press" as "push" did...thats what happens when Scholars who don't practice an art write as though they're authorities on subjects they have little experience or knowledge of.

Is that rampant in the Chinese medicines and Chinese arts?

Also, is it just bad translation that causes this?

BoarSpear · 02-23-2007, 10:33 PM

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Tom Yum · 02-23-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoarSpear

Whenever non martial artist try to translate a Martial artists thoughts they tend to screw up the thought process that was included in the message because their understanding and experiences have no common ground with the men who wrote them. The internal arts have been shredded by "know its alls" who don't know shit but are more eloquent in their ability to hide behind words. Press was translated as push because some scholar thought people would understand better, problem is people now push when they should be pressing BIG freakin' difference in pressing a vital point and pushing it. This alone destroyed timing as well as the understanding of the way the power was generated and transmitted, that's disastrous to a martial art.

The best man for the job would be both a black sash in an accredited lineage and a solid translator?

BoarSpear · 02-23-2007, 10:54 PM

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Uke · 02-24-2007, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoarSpear

Whenever non martial artist try to translate a Martial artists thoughts they tend to screw up the thought process that was included in the message because their understanding and experiences have no common ground with the men who wrote them. The internal arts have been shredded by "know its alls" who don't know shit but are more eloquent in their ability to hide behind words. Press was translated as push because some scholar thought people would understand better, problem is people now push when they should be pressing BIG freakin' difference in pressing a vital point and pushing it. This alone destroyed timing as well as the understanding of the way the power was generated and transmitted, that's disastrous to a martial art.

I thought that was the case with translations in general.

Tee Sok · 02-24-2007, 05:12 AM

Boarspear,

thanks for pointing out the difference between push and press, that changes everything.

polecat63 · 02-24-2007, 09:20 AM

I saw this posted yesterday and was amazed that nobody had said what a crock it was. You see vids like this all the time, but I have yet to actually meet anyone that wasn't a student of the "master" that ever experienced it.

My Sifu can knock you on your ass and it feels like a freight train hit you, but I've never flown through the air, or experinced his "chi". Nor has he ever claimed he could do it, or that he has ever met anyone that could.

Very sad, and sad that unexpecting people beleive it.

Tee Sok · 02-24-2007, 12:29 PM

Those were pushes. Not hits. I experienced pushes myself when my teacher pushed me using is fist. I didn't fly, I was just pushed backwards a great deal. That's why I say these look real to me. Fa Jin hits are something else, they would break you.

jubaji · 02-24-2007, 01:02 PM

I didn't have any audio. Was there a three stooges sound track playing in the background of that mess?

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Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 327 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fa Jin video Here's a nice video on Fa Jin. Some of the pushes are really amazing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=967f3...elated&search=

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knifethrower Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: I'm Texan, but I live in lots of places Posts: 527 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fukin funny Boar!---- wish I could see it! my vids fucked.... BTW why the fuk would anyone want to push in a fight? I don't give a fuk how far you push him...he'll just get back up and kick your @ss------ __________________ "Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things."

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polecat63 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 110 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I saw this posted yesterday and was amazed that nobody had said what a crock it was. You see vids like this all the time, but I have yet to actually meet anyone that wasn't a student of the "master" that ever experienced it. My Sifu can knock you on your ass and it feels like a freight train hit you, but I've never flown through the air, or experinced his "chi". Nor has he ever claimed he could do it, or that he has ever met anyone that could. Very sad, and sad that unexpecting people beleive it. __________________ Ed Grubberman, you fail to grasp Tae-Kwan-Leap. Approach that you might see.

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jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,789 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	I didn't have any audio. Was there a three stooges sound track playing in the background of that mess? __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

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kiddbjj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 207 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	and the oscar goes to... that guy

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Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 327 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I saw it a few times, it looks real to me. In some pushes he performs the guy just takes off, you can't push yourself backwards like that.

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BoarSpear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,729 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	they're authorities on subjects they have little experience or knowledge of.

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Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 327 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Boarspear, thanks for pointing out the difference between push and press, that changes everything.

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Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 327 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Those were pushes. Not hits. I experienced pushes myself when my teacher pushed me using is fist. I didn't fly, I was just pushed backwards a great deal. That's why I say these look real to me. Fa Jin hits are something else, they would break you.

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