Wai Yeung

Kung Fu is not about memorizing techniques. It is more about building a strong foundation of flexibility, power with min energy as well as the condition you are supposed to be in a fight. For example, most "GOOD" kung fu guys don't break a sweat easily. But most boxers or wrestler sweats like a pig in less than a minute haha. Maybe there are better conditions boxers or wrestlers out there! i dunno.. maybe it's just the place i go to that sucks haha but just looking at UFC and Pride (most of the guys sweat like crazy within a minute of fighting)


Yeah the forms are useless if u only pratice 1-10 times a day. You should try praticing like 2 hours straight non-stop. Until you can do one form within one or two minutes (regardless of the length of your form) most forms should be within 3 mintues if you do it quick enough! Do the forms until it's like natural instinct to you! It's kinda like boxing drill but boxing don't have much techniques to pratice which is why it is a good martial art.

But...if you just want to kick someone's ass fast and pratice sparring... then take MMA kickboxing and wrestling.

jubaji

Ai-ya........

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Tom Yum

That guy isn't talking from experience, is he.

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Wai Yeung

Well i think the main reason for this is because kung fu guys know how to relax more. But boxing and wrestling guys are a lot more stiff and tense !

Tom Yum

......Wrong.

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jubaji

I don't think he's talking from planet earth!

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Thai Bri

Nah. Do forms, forms and more forms.

Sagacious Lu

I was getting progressively more frustrated, but the deal breaker was when I asked my teacher why I hadn't gotten a chance to spar in more than six months and he answered "Look around you. I have maybe 3 people who can realistically work with you, and I can't structure a whole class around four people even if you all show up on the same day." I didn't want to leave but after that I had to accept that that school just didn't have what I needed in order to progress. You can't improve without people to train with. The gym I go to know has a lot of people that I can work with (many of whom are a lot better than myself) so it's a much better environment for me.

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GranFire

That's a silly excuse, we have only 50 min. classes, sometimes we have non sparring students and we still can, depending on what we are working on most get a few rounds in. Lower ranks can work on forms etc while the others spar...and 3 or 4, that's enough for three rounds!

Hey, when the schools priorities no longer match with yours, it's time to move on.

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Sagacious Lu

This is exactly what it came down to for me.

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westway50

ummm im not sure how u can even actually spare with most cma styles. most moves are like being able to escape locks or like twisting their arms or some other stuff. you can have forms that look like sparing but it really isnt a good idea to actually head on spare. you cant use alot of the stuff you learn because it would require u to really hurt the other person.

well maybe it just me and im not doing it right, but when i like spar for fun outside of my school, i never use the stuff i learn. i always just end up stopping right before i actually hit them. im not really into the strength thing, but sparing with someone that throws fast punches is hard

Sagacious Lu

This sounds like an excuse not to spar; at my gym we do hit each other and it does hurt, but that's what you have to do if you want to get better.

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Thai Bri

Heres an experiment. Look at this video and then find examples of moves directly like these being used in any encounter between resisting opponents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSTyL333hRk&NR


I mean human opponents! Not Monkeys, Dragons or Snakes!

Sagacious Lu

We spent hour after hour on this sort of thing. It got to the point where I felt like I'd get more out of my work out if I stayed home and hit my bag instead of going to class.

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Thai Bri

If learning to fight is your goal? Then you definately 100% would.

Ask any Thai Boxer. You know the ones.... the ones who win in stand up competitions against Kung Fu "masters" until, that is, the "kung fu" guy starts to train like the Thai Boxer!

Haw haw haw!