How to fight a grappler - Erle Montaigue - Page 3

darrianation · 10-10-2007, 08:44 AM

Aww....the early UFCs, wasn’t it always a sight to see these traditional martial arts with their crisp polished techniques suddenly turn cave man once in the octagon?

Tom Yum · 10-10-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by darrianation

Aww....the early UFCs, wasn’t it always a sight to see these traditional martial arts with their crisp polished techniques suddenly turn cave man once in the octagon?

True and good point for the most part. But why? I think its the case that many of these TMA guys never fought with resistance before.

Hackney stood pretty true to his training. He slammed side kicks into Yarbrough's thigh and when that didn't work after getting nearly thrown out of the ring, he used a palm heel to his face sending him down to the mat where he ridge handed his face and then hammer fisted the back of his head.

When he fought Joe Son, he punched him about 5 times in the groin from a side mount.

DickHardman · 10-10-2007, 08:52 PM

i really like the versatility of hand strikes in the tmas. i took a few years of tkd/karate when i was in middle school, and i have incorporated many of their hand strikes into my current training. knifehands, hammer fists, leopard knuckle strikes, palm strikes and ridgehands. they work well with the parry and counterattacking skills of boxing/mt.

**Thai Bri** · 10-11-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Yum

Hackney stood pretty true to his training.

Didn't win a great deal, did he.

bodhisattva · 01-03-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagleye

http://www.youtube.com/v/Bvf6MAV3vBA

If you don't want to grapple and it's because you don't want to be on the ground - the best way to stay off the ground is to learn to grapple.

If you don't want to be a boxer, because you don't want to get hit in fights - the best way to keep from getting hit is to learn to box.

bodhisattva · 01-03-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Rum

I think some people have ignored your comment and I don't know why. It is the best point on here.

Too many kung fu styles train 'anti-grappling or anti-takedown stuff which is just silly

If you are grabbed from behind in a chokehold in a bar by someone and dragged to the floor, wing chun and many other kung fu styles fall apart.

Even myself - I'm a big guy and legs that are thick and wide, but a good fighter could get me to the ground if I wasn't expecting it

I find it essential to training to cover a grappling art. It doesn't have to be BJJ (although that is the one I enjoy doing), it could Sombo or Catch wrestling for example

You guys are exactly right.

The best anti-Grappling techniques, if they work, are actually Grappling techniques. You want to use boxing to stop an incoming grappler?

Fine, it can be pulled off.

But how much more likely will you be to pull it off if you can sprawl, grab a control position, and THEN start punching?

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DickHardman Master Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,055 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i really like the versatility of hand strikes in the tmas. i took a few years of tkd/karate when i was in middle school, and i have incorporated many of their hand strikes into my current training. knifehands, hammer fists, leopard knuckle strikes, palm strikes and ridgehands. they work well with the parry and counterattacking skills of boxing/mt.

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