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Old 10-01-2007, 05:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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He talks too much. Is he trying to put his opponent to sleep? He has a good rep, as far as I know, but his teaching style leaves much to be desired, IMHO.
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switched it off half way through. lol
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Oof.

Prepare for the onslaught of "None of you know what you're watching, and that's why you don't like that video!"

Personally, what Erle is doing in that clip doesn't look very congruent with what he's showed elsewhere. For example, I dug up the rest of the "How to Fight a Grappler" videos, and the angle he shows here is different enough that you'd have to choose one or the other. Fighting a guy able to do both (strike or grapple) would put you in a position of having to choose between different structures. To me, that's bad.

I think his stuff in this video could be more direct (and by that, I don't mean "straight in" but rather "efficient in terms of angles and movement"). For my tastes, I like this kind of stuff:

YouTube - How To Fight And Defend Yourself In A Fight
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I'm not a fan of everything Bas does, but dammit, I gotta love the approach and the charisma! "Bongitta Bongitta Bang!" It also requires far less "cultivation" of your internal this-and-that to be able to use this stuff effectively than something like what big Erle is teaching.
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Im an experienced fighter and a long term student of martial arts. The person I trained with last is slim and short, but hes an undefeated underground fighter. He was internal-this and -that, you can pick up, try to stab, do whatever, you cant touch him. His style is relaxed and very polite yet hes skillfully devastating at the same time. I dont think many people could last more than 2 seconds with him. the point im making is that old chinese fighting takes too long to learn, so people look up to idiots like bas. Its funny to watch though.

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Erm...

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I think someone is hoping this "new member" will divert some of the heat of their red ass. I don't believe in coincidence and the timing of this clown is too perfect to ignore.
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For example, I dug up the rest of the "How to Fight a Grappler" videos.

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I think someone is hoping this "new member" will divert some of the heat of their red ass. I don't believe in coincidence and the timing of this clown is too perfect to ignore.


He sounds like a perfect candidate for your cult!
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It's not jubaji, if that's what you mean.
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It's not jubaji, if that's what you mean.
I'm just saying I doubt the intentions of the poster are intended as anything other than shit stirring. It appears from reading his posts that someone who reads the forum scanned the forums and picked as many outrageous topics as he could pack into a couple of post and strategically placed them.
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As for the "Baqua" clip, that isn't even close to Baqua, it's actually a technique from Shaolin called White Serpent separates grass, moves through. Baqua is an internal art yet Erle is demonstrating external concepts and trying to fit them to Baqua with his exploding fist concepts so he can show Dim Mak in Baqua. I think he got dropped on his head one time too many when he was a pro wrestler.
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