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Old 03-15-2008, 03:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's an instructor of the Gong fu san soo system teaching Recon Marines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igvOYirZw-w
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Some good stuff there Tom. Neck, groin, throat, knees - simple and direct. The guy obviously knows what he is doing, you don't get through doors like that unless you do.

Very interesting, thanks for posting.
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What's also interesting is that this instructor used traditional martial arts for combat instruction - concepts that work, nothing too fancy. He didn't teach them forms, rather got straight to combat.
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The vast majority of the material I teach to the Military comes from Kali, some of the material is over 800 years old. When I say that people may think oh jesus he teaches soldiers to play with sticks and do energy drills. There is Kali for the recreational martial artist, which is what you will get in an average JKD school, and then there is the battle tested Kali that has been and continues to be used in combat.

Just like this guy here, he clearly stripped his art right down to the nitty gritty. Breaking a neck is breaking a neck, as is crushing a windpipe or taking an eye. Teach the right material to the right audience.
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The vast majority of the material I teach to the Military comes from Kali, some of the material is over 800 years old. When I say that people may think oh jesus he teaches soldiers to play with sticks and do energy drills. There is Kali for the recreational martial artist, which is what you will get in an average JKD school, and then there is the battle tested Kali that has been and continues to be used in combat.

Just like this guy here, he clearly stripped his art right down to the nitty gritty. Breaking a neck is breaking a neck, as is crushing a windpipe or taking an eye. Teach the right material to the right audience.
the stuff you teach to the military, does it look like this at all??


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It's a shame that any kung fu school/style has to advertise that their style can be used for combat. You'd think that it would be a given for a fighting style to actually be useful for fighting.
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Here's an instructor of the Gong fu san soo system teaching Recon Marines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igvOYirZw-w
Nice find, Sean Mesa is quite a colorful character.

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Check out these clips he made for a particular subset of mission profiles.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNTURFGAU8

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5D_IoaXZcS4

Not the picture most people have of the Chinese arts.
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Looks like closed-door material. I know what you mean.
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It's a shame that any kung fu school/style has to advertise that their style can be used for combat. You'd think that it would be a given for a fighting style to actually be useful for fighting.
Commercial martial arts aren't always sought for fighting alone. Alot of folks do it for excercise, discipline, culture or just as a hobby and there's nothing wrong with that - if they learn some useful self-defense, its an added bonus.

Personally, I would like to learn something for combat purposes only and if it has a deep philosophical or beautiful culture behind it, I think that's a good thing.
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Beauty is seldom found in blood stains...Traditions of tribal warfare, millitary occupation resistance fighters. Silat was more like a meat grinder than anything else (for me)

Of course it can be funny in a dark hysterical sense.

My friend Tyrone was shanked with a single puncture wound to his heart. He fell at the door of a small neighborhood grocery store. Nothing funny about that but the feeble efforts of another acquaintence to slow the bleeding...
(small town eh?)

Hard to fathom how much blood flows from a single tiny wound or how far it will spray out until pressure is lost...

There's your ART Tom... Go KILL...

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Commercial martial arts aren't always sought for fighting alone. Alot of folks do it for excercise, discipline, culture or just as a hobby and there's nothing wrong with that - if they learn some useful self-defense, its an added bonus.

Personally, I would like to learn something for combat purposes only and if it has a deep philosophical or beautiful culture behind it, I think that's a good thing.
I also agree with your statement, but you can use a fork to comb your hair with too. It's main purpose is for eating and kung fu's main purpose is fighting.
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