Wing Tsun?

EricD · 04-30-2008, 09:26 PM

So i've been browsing other martial arts forums and i've noticed some complaints against Wing Tsun. Specifically:

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Lack of fighting, lack of pressure testing, complete focus on non-martial training.

Claims that you should strengthen your tendons and ligaments to make you fast and muscles slow you down.

Focus on a "trapping" range, which is so transient, you never have time to keep the range, it's like making a car and focusing on how the steering wheel looks and never looking at the engine.

No aliveness.

Forms approach to learning.

Over emphasis on "sensitivity" training, which is pointless."

MOST IMPORTANTLY
Failure to realize that chain punching is shitty arm punches, and their choice in fighting stance gives them no chance to use their hips for power.

It's over all, a shitty martial art, and everything you don't want to train, if you want to learn to fight.

Mind you, this is from Bullshido Forums, and I don't take those guys seriously in any way, shape or form. But is Wing Tsun really such a bad martial art? I take Deluxe Martial Arts Forum's opinion much more seriously and I'd like to know from people with actual experience if Wing Tsun is such a 'shitty' style?

TTEscrima · 04-30-2008, 11:12 PM

At one time or another WC has been integrated into the training programs of the US Navy Seals, the FBI, the French RAID and the German SEK units. SEAL Team 4 was particularly well known for their proficiency and high regard for WC. Like any art it depends on who teaches it and how you train it.

fire cobra · 05-01-2008, 02:42 AM

Personally i think Wing Chun has a lot of value both Martial and Art wise.

Red Rum · 05-01-2008, 06:30 AM

Some wing chun is excellent and is a nice art to take up first before moving onto other arts (like MT or karate)

It soleley depends on what you are looking for.
Youtube has plenty of clips of people practising WT, but it is also good to go down to a class and see what you think of it

Every martial art has something to offer

Adept · 05-02-2008, 08:32 AM

Eric,

Ditto on all the above authors' comments.

Every art is different for every person.

The guys at Bullshido bash up on Wing Chun because most of those posters are BJJ players. What'd you expect from a BJJ dominated board to talk of Wing Chun?

People say that trapping range is a useless, short time thing. Not true at all. I think clinching is a form of trapping, yet no one states that is a useless, short term range.

So chin up.

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TTEscrima Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: planet Earth Posts: 381	At one time or another WC has been integrated into the training programs of the US Navy Seals, the FBI, the French RAID and the German SEK units. SEAL Team 4 was particularly well known for their proficiency and high regard for WC. Like any art it depends on who teaches it and how you train it.

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fire cobra Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: north east england Posts: 280	Personally i think Wing Chun has a lot of value both Martial and Art wise.

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Red Rum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 437	Some wing chun is excellent and is a nice art to take up first before moving onto other arts (like MT or karate) It soleley depends on what you are looking for. Youtube has plenty of clips of people practising WT, but it is also good to go down to a class and see what you think of it Every martial art has something to offer

05-02-2008, 08:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Adept Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fort Gordon, GA Posts: 131	Eric, Ditto on all the above authors' comments. Every art is different for every person. The guys at Bullshido bash up on Wing Chun because most of those posters are BJJ players. What'd you expect from a BJJ dominated board to talk of Wing Chun? People say that trapping range is a useless, short time thing. Not true at all. I think clinching is a form of trapping, yet no one states that is a useless, short term range. So chin up.

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