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    Quote Originally Posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    It's actually a Halloween costume. I'm dressed as Jesus and I'm holding a Bible and a Satanic Bible.

    So apparently your saviors representation looks like a hippy Wicca trust fund baby.

    Oh and I'm drunk as hell too!!!!!
    Hey, Hello kingoftheforest.

    I was wondering about those books. It looks like you are standing between heaven and hell, make a choice.

    Some see the forest but not the trees and others see the trees but not the seeds and still few see the seeds but not the sower (or planter of the trees). Even fewer see the sower.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    so you are saying its just the two of us on there then
    Nope, Tanto1, Garland, TomYum, KOTF, Knifethrower, Uke and I are all different people, so I guess its just the 7 of us, XF and one very busy little sports fan with a shitload of screenames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    It's actually a Halloween costume. I'm dressed as Jesus and I'm holding a Bible and a Satanic Bible.

    So apparently your saviors representation looks like a hippy Wicca trust fund baby.
    Highly unlikely.

    Jesus inhabited the Middle East and was probably darker haired, tan-colored man with little monetary means (remember he was given a donkey to ride and slept in humble bedding).

    Indeed a humble looking man, but never forgotten.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    Oh and I'm drunk as hell too!!!!!

    Shall I bring the wenches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    so you are saying its just the two of us on there then
    You'd like that, wouldn't you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTEscrima View Post
    Then pray tell WTF kind of KF ARE you talking about? Jet fucking Li?

    If the Chinese National Champ and Silver medalist in Sanda isn't what you're talking about, what is?

    And again, what type of conditioning do you do for Tiger and Snake strikes? Both require extreme finger strength and conditioning, so what do you do because without that conditioning its a joke and useless.
    Hey TTEscrima, I have no problem with that video tape I think he has skill. But what i am speaking about is more vicious combative and survival fighting. I remember how one of my instructors would attack a person that he got close to. It was a blurr of fierce attacks and the person was on the ground. You would get hit so many tmes in vital spots that you could barely even see it. he was also a very strong man and if he got his hands on you you were unable to escape. He was a leopard stylist also.

    I think when some in here attack Kung Fu, it is because they have no idea what techniques are part of the arsenal. Or perhaps they have seen that pathetic video of a so called kung fu man being overcome easily by a Gracie Jujitsu fighter. Or the other pathetic kung fu fight where the kung fu man is easily overcome by a grappler and has his arm broken. These are not a representation of kung fu at all. I saw no kung fu from either of them, no stance (hardly) no form, no technique no hand positioning, no guard, no footwork, etc etc etc.

    I think some try to judge how effective kung fu is by what they se on You tube. This is not a good representation of Kung Fu. The best kung fu masters will not even be seen by many. I remember seeing one time quite a while ago a video, (not on you tube) of an old man who was a master for many years and teaches in china, he looked thin and easy to overcome, if a person judged by outward appearance. Yet in combat he fought like ten tigers. He was apparently able to fight ten men at one time and overcome them according to the narrator. His technique was fast and agressive. He used many kicks and punchs as he kicked. He rushed in in a flurry of movements The way he moved and the speed at which he moved made it seem possible.

    Most Westerners never even see such things. And some of the older masters have no desire to show them either unless they show their students.

    One of my instructors could fight more than one man , on his back. I have seen his combat skill. I do not want to boast about him. I just make the point that so much is not seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Arieson View Post
    When you can snatch the pebble from my hands, it's time to leave.
    that pebble was snatched long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerClaw View Post
    Hey, Hello kingoftheforest.

    I was wondering about those books. It looks like you are standing between heaven and hell, make a choice.
    That's hard to do without all the information, some people are too scared to think outside the box though. When all we have is old text (which some people are too scared to read) and the actions of the proponents of both sides to examine it isn't easy to figure out who's really the good guy. Read the posts of Arieson, he proclaims to be Christian, read the papers, Christians killing their own kids "because they're possessed" or raping someone else's kids for whatever twisted reason makes me wonder, it's like they say, actions speak louder than words. Far more death and horror has been done to man by those who did by so in some "Gods" service than of any other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerClaw View Post
    One of my instructors could fight more than one man , on his back. I have seen his combat skill. I do not want to boast about him. I just make the point that so much is not seen.
    I've been around a long time, I've seen some great fighters, I've yet to meet anyone who could defeat multiple opponents from their back without a weapon. I know what good KF is, and I know what it's not, much of what you've posted is from the questionable category. Many of your claims are every bit as laughable as the MMA fans assertions of their superiority outside of the ring in spite of the dead professionals whose performance outside the ring shows otherwise. I've seen you boast about your Snake and Tiger Claw and I've asked you twice how you conditioned these tools and you've avoided the question. The fact that you've done so combined with your assertions makes you look like a creation of an MMA troll who is trying to find a way to divert attention from MMA's failure as anything but entertainment and a sport .
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    Apparently no matter how much practice the PRO MMA fighters put in they couldn't survive an amateur on the street.



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    Of course, everyone knows that only out of shape theory-boys can survive 'da street' through the power of deadly, deadly techniques that they have never actually done. The fact that they never leave the basement and come out into the light of day makes any kind of training a moot point anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayatollah Arieson View Post

    Bottom line. The most fights I have ever seen were in high school, and it was football players and wrestlers who won ALL of them. There was no Kung fu guy "dancing" and flying through the air. I also saw no bayonets, knives, guns being used, by the way. It was football players who A. Knew how to tackle, or B. Knew what it felt like to get tackled. And it was Wrestlers who knew how to slam a guy to the ground and pin him there, and who knew what it felt like to be slammed to the ground and pinned.
    Finally we get the truth, your entire experience revolves around WATCHING schoolyard fights by unarmed children, thanks for your honesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayatollah Arieson View Post
    Was your instructor Ashida Kim, by any chance?
    Do you know anything about anything? Ashida Kim is a fraud from the Japanese arts, yes genius, Ninja's are from the Japanese martial arts, not the Chinese martial arts. You never stop showing your ignorance of the martial arts, no wonder you respect Jubarki's opinions on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayatollah Arieson View Post
    Oh, and these "unarmed children" were guys as huge as refrigerators, with no necks. They were called "the wrestling team", and you would not want to fight ANY of them. But go ahead and lie about how you could easily take them down in 15 seconds with your "combatives".
    One question, does the military teach its Special Forces soldiers high school wrestling or combatives? Exactly, they teach them combatives and... Kung Fu, not a single wrestling class to be found. Nor any no neck muscle heads, yuppie bankers or psyops deck jockeys, imagine that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayatollah Arieson View Post
    I know that, troll. It just that the dsecription of being a "blur" sounds the same.
    Uh huh, Bruce Lee was too fast for the cameras and they had to ask him to slow down so perhaps a Bruce Lee quip would have been more appropriate but then you thought the Bay of Pigs invasion made Cubans fans of the Republican party so why anyone would expect you to be able to keep up with any conversation is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Arieson View Post
    If you can't practice it, you can't do it.

    it's like expecting to play real guitar after only ever playing "guitar hero". Sure, you can simulate the motions and actions, but it is not the same thing.
    your pretty stupid if you think gouging some ones eye out requires practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTExcrement View Post
    And back to the FACT that WWll combatives are really WWI combatives, Spanish-American War combatives, US Civil War combatives which can be traced back to the 1500's and finally to the renaissance fair in my local Walmart parking lot where Sir Larpalot taught Boringspear the secrets of 'real' pretend combat.

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