The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**Garland** · 05-12-2009, 06:26 PM

Alright, I am curious as to what this art is and what it looks like. I used to here a little bit about it from my ex-girlfriend who's brother practiced the art. It is apparently taught in Utah as a "backroom" thing to a group of private students by a guy named Thomas Garringa, who is apparently an old Ed Parker blackbelt also...
Can anyone tell me more about this system or anything?

SergeTk · 05-12-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Garland

Alright, I am curious as to what this art is and what it looks like. I used to here a little bit about it from my ex-girlfriend who's brother practiced the art. It is apparently taught in Utah as a "backroom" thing to a group of private students by a guy named Thomas Garringa, who is apparently an old Ed Parker blackbelt also...
Can anyone tell me more about this system or anything?

if you talking about wu ji quan which I belive you are look at this link
FIVE ANCESTORS & WUJI ?

Also as far as what it looks like it most similar to Tai chi ........... infact for some tai chi style symbol is multiple circles (I belive representing skill levels outside the least advanced, most inner circle most advanced) well some of this styles referer to most inner circle as wuji also..........

IF NOT THEN SORRY.....

Shattakan · 06-05-2009, 06:45 PM

No, Wu JI Chyuan Fa is only similar to Tai Chi when doing the Wu Ji Chyuan Fa Tai Chi set. Wu Ji Quan is a completely different martial art not associated with Wu Ji Chyuan Fa.

"The literal translation of Wu Ji Chyuan Fa means "All Origins Martial Method" and this is an accurate description of the system; it is an all-inclusive organization of martial skills ranging from hand-to-hand & weapons combat to survival skills & confrontation de-escalation—and more.

With its origins dating back to approximately 630 B.C. with the efforts of a chinese family to learn everything that was obtainable about combat in all its forms, this system has been continually updated and upgraded since that time. This has been, and continues to be, accomplished by learning and incorporating skills from all forms of martial arts & military practice, as well as from psychological science, survival training, etc, and gathered from every country—incorporating the best and discarding the rest.

Shortly after the turn of the Millenium, the family finished researching and studying the last 20-30 of the over 1,400 known martial and military systems in the world and has since been in the process of reviewing and incorporating the recently gathered material into the system. From long experience, however, the family has found that new martial knowledge is always being developed and especially as the circumstances change with which individuals & society are confronted.

Because of this, efforts are always underway by the family and the instructors & students of the Tang Wei Martial Arts Institute to: deepen our current understanding of martial skills & applications; repurpose the vast body of knowledge that has already been gathered, in order to adapt to a changing world; and improve upon current skills & understanding—or innovate to satisfy new/unmet needs."

About Us and About the System
WJCF - Origins

YouTube - WJCF Phantom Sword I
Youtube: Phantom Sword Set WJCF

SergeTk · 06-06-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shattakan

No Wu JI Chyuan Fa is only similar to Tai Chi when doing the Wu Ji Chyuan Fa Tai Chi set. Wu Ji Quan is a completely different martial art not associated with Wu Ji Chyuan Fa.

"The literal translation of Wu Ji Chyuan Fa means "All Origins Martial Method" and this is an accurate description of the system; it is an all-inclusive organization of martial skills ranging from hand-to-hand & weapons combat to survival skills & confrontation de-escalation—and more.

With its origins dating back to approximately 630 B.C. with the efforts of a chinese family to learn everything that was obtainable about combat in all its forms, this system has been continually updated and upgraded since that time. This has been, and continues to be, accomplished by learning and incorporating skills from all forms of martial arts & military practice, as well as from psychological science, survival training, etc, and gathered from every country—incorporating the best and discarding the rest.

Shortly after the turn of the Millenium, the family finished researching and studying the last 20-30 of the over 1,400 known martial and military systems in the world and has since been in the process of reviewing and incorporating the recently gathered material into the system. From long experience, however, the family has found that new martial knowledge is always being developed and especially as the circumstances change with which individuals & society are confronted.

Because of this, efforts are always underway by the family and the instructors & students of the Tang Wei Martial Arts Institute to: deepen our current understanding of martial skills & applications; repurpose the vast body of knowledge that has already been gathered, in order to adapt to a changing world; and improve upon current skills & understanding—or innovate to satisfy new/unmet needs."

About Us and About the System
WJCF - Origins

YouTube - WJCF Phantom Sword I
Youtube: Phantom Sword Set WJCF

I guess I was wrong as it seems he was asking about your version of Wu Ji ......

clfsean · 06-07-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shattakan

No Wu JI Chyuan Fa is only similar to Tai Chi when doing the Wu Ji Chyuan Fa Tai Chi set. Wu Ji Quan is a completely different martial art not associated with Wu Ji Chyuan Fa.

"The literal translation of Wu Ji Chyuan Fa means "All Origins Martial Method" and this is an accurate description of the system; it is an all-inclusive organization of martial skills ranging from hand-to-hand & weapons combat to survival skills & confrontation de-escalation—and more.

With its origins dating back to approximately 630 B.C. with the efforts of a chinese family to learn everything that was obtainable about combat in all its forms, this system has been continually updated and upgraded since that time. This has been, and continues to be, accomplished by learning and incorporating skills from all forms of martial arts & military practice, as well as from psychological science, survival training, etc, and gathered from every country—incorporating the best and discarding the rest.

Shortly after the turn of the Millenium, the family finished researching and studying the last 20-30 of the over 1,400 known martial and military systems in the world and has since been in the process of reviewing and incorporating the recently gathered material into the system. From long experience, however, the family has found that new martial knowledge is always being developed and especially as the circumstances change with which individuals & society are confronted.

Because of this, efforts are always underway by the family and the instructors & students of the Tang Wei Martial Arts Institute to: deepen our current understanding of martial skills & applications; repurpose the vast body of knowledge that has already been gathered, in order to adapt to a changing world; and improve upon current skills & understanding—or innovate to satisfy new/unmet needs."

About Us and About the System
WJCF - Origins

YouTube - WJCF Phantom Sword I
Youtube: Phantom Sword Set WJCF

Kenpo ...

Shattakan · 06-08-2009, 10:04 AM

"In addition to having personally trained & studied in 13 styles other than Wu Ji Chyuan Fa, Mr. Garriga has black belt rankings in 5 other styles; including a 9th degree ranking in American Kenpo where he was a "first generation" black belt under the late Mr. Ed Parker and was the former manager of the International Kenpo Karate Association (IKKA) Headquarters Studio in Pasadena, California.

While running the IKKA Studio in Pasadena, Tom was among the first group of caucasians to be invited to study with the Chinese family from whom the Wu Ji Chyuan Fa system comes, and is the only caucasian to be recognized with the rank of 'Master' by the family."

Tom Garriga is a high ranked kenpoist so there are some similarities to kenpo in his style but that is only in his personal interpretation of Wu Ji Chyuan Fa principles.

“While Wu Ji Chyuan Fa could properly be described as a style – and although it does include the development of a personal 'style' as part of what is taught – because of its thorough and methodical approach Wu Ji Chyuan Fa is more properly described as a system of martial art/knowledge.”

**Garland** · 06-09-2009, 08:34 PM

So is this a closed door system...?

Shattakan · 06-10-2009, 09:38 AM

It was a closed door system when Tom learnt it, Tom taught the system openly from 1991 until 2002, the system now is taught through private instruction from designated instructors.

Even though a style may no longer be taught behind closed doors doesn’t mean all of its higher information is openly taught to anyone, especially those who demonstrate lack of moral character.

**Garland** · 06-10-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shattakan

the system now is taught through private instruction from designated instructors.

Even though a style may no longer be taught behind closed doors doesn’t mean all of its higher information is openly taught to anyone, especially those who demonstrate lack of moral character.

1) where does one find these individuals?

2) does having a decent sense of humor count?

Shattakan · 06-10-2009, 05:27 PM

Contact Tom at Rennick’s Tae Kwon Do Academy, San Juan Island, WA.
Free kung fu demonstration at Rennick?s Friday and Saturday - Journal of the San Juans.

Rennick’s Tae Kwon Do Academy
960 Guard St
Friday Harbor, WA 98250

(360) 378-7536

Tom can tell you who is currently teaching in SLC.

Ziptac · 06-21-2009, 09:58 PM

Shattakan,

You just made my day. I've been trying to get somebody to get me something on Master Garriga for almost a year now. I was a former student when Tang Wei was first opened in Cottonwood/Sandy, UT and stupidly let my life get in the way. That is why you made my day. I'm dying to start again. And I'm not the only one.

For those who are reading this post and are curious about Wu Ji Chuan Fa. I can tell you first hand that it is something else. It is really hard to bring it down into a one line description, but here it goes:

A strong, quick, practical, lifelong, style of martial arts that makes most styles look outdated. With respect I should note, many styles have great value. If I am unsuccessful in finding a way to practice Wu Ji Chuan Fa, then I will be joining one of those.

SergeTk · 06-28-2009, 03:46 AM

I have a question what the translation of the Chuan Fa part , is it same as quan (fist)?

Shattakan · 06-29-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SergeTk

I have a question what the translation of the Chuan Fa part , is it same as quan (fist)?

Chyuan, Chuan, Quan, they all mean "fist" or "martial" but this style is always been spelled as Chyuan. The name Wu Ji Chyuan Fa was given by Tom Garriga before then the Style was known as the "family system" the family being the Wong and Ga families - cousins. Wu Ji Chyuan Fa means "all origins martial method" and has no other ties to any other style referred as Wu Ji Quan.

SergeTk · 07-05-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shattakan

Chyuan, Chuan, Quan, they all mean "fist" or "martial" but this style is always been spelled as Chyuan. The name Wu Ji Chyuan Fa was given by Tom Garriga before then the Style was known as the "family system" the family being the Wong and Ga families - cousins. Wu Ji Chyuan Fa means "all origins martial method" and has no other ties to any other style referred as Wu Ji Quan.

You seem to know a bit about Tom Garriga any idea why he decided to rename the style as well as why he choose to borrow another styles name and philosophy behind name?

Shattakan · 07-07-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SergeTk

You seem to know a bit about Tom Garriga any idea why he decided to rename the style as well as why he choose to borrow another styles name and philosophy behind name?

The name or philophophy isn’t borrowed it's shared; Wu Ji Chyuan Fa, the Fa (method) and the common spelling of Chyuan instead of Quan should designate it as a different style from Wu Ji Quan.

Tom needed to give the style a clearer name because of the vague commercial use of the term “family style”, there are many family styles in kung fu and the name Wu Ji Chyuan Fa should designate it as separate from other styles that use that term.

As for philosophy; Wu Ji Quan is a style based on the concept that from "Nothingness Everything came" or ZiRan (Natural) approach to boxing. As for Wu Ji Chyuan Fa its philosophy is of gathering and using the best skills in all aspects of the martial arts, that philosophy is shared by many other styles, martial artists, military systems of fighting, and MMA (it’s the logical approach to martial arts development).

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Garland Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,275 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts	Wu Ji Chyuan Fa? Alright, I am curious as to what this art is and what it looks like. I used to here a little bit about it from my ex-girlfriend who's brother practiced the art. It is apparently taught in Utah as a "backroom" thing to a group of private students by a guy named Thomas Garringa, who is apparently an old Ed Parker blackbelt also... Can anyone tell me more about this system or anything? __________________ homo homini lupus

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Shattakan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wu Ji Chyuan Fa No, Wu JI Chyuan Fa is only similar to Tai Chi when doing the Wu Ji Chyuan Fa Tai Chi set. Wu Ji Quan is a completely different martial art not associated with Wu Ji Chyuan Fa. "The literal translation of Wu Ji Chyuan Fa means "All Origins Martial Method" and this is an accurate description of the system; it is an all-inclusive organization of martial skills ranging from hand-to-hand & weapons combat to survival skills & confrontation de-escalation—and more. With its origins dating back to approximately 630 B.C. with the efforts of a chinese family to learn everything that was obtainable about combat in all its forms, this system has been continually updated and upgraded since that time. This has been, and continues to be, accomplished by learning and incorporating skills from all forms of martial arts & military practice, as well as from psychological science, survival training, etc, and gathered from every country—incorporating the best and discarding the rest. Shortly after the turn of the Millenium, the family finished researching and studying the last 20-30 of the over 1,400 known martial and military systems in the world and has since been in the process of reviewing and incorporating the recently gathered material into the system. From long experience, however, the family has found that new martial knowledge is always being developed and especially as the circumstances change with which individuals & society are confronted. Because of this, efforts are always underway by the family and the instructors & students of the Tang Wei Martial Arts Institute to: deepen our current understanding of martial skills & applications; repurpose the vast body of knowledge that has already been gathered, in order to adapt to a changing world; and improve upon current skills & understanding—or innovate to satisfy new/unmet needs." About Us and About the System WJCF - Origins YouTube - WJCF Phantom Sword I Youtube: Phantom Sword Set WJCF

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Garland Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,275 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts	So is this a closed door system...? __________________ homo homini lupus

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Shattakan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"In addition to having personally trained & studied in 13 styles other than Wu Ji Chyuan Fa, Mr. Garriga has black belt rankings in 5 other styles; including a 9th degree ranking in American Kenpo where he was a "first generation" black belt under the late Mr. Ed Parker and was the former manager of the International Kenpo Karate Association (IKKA) Headquarters Studio in Pasadena, California. While running the IKKA Studio in Pasadena, Tom was among the first group of caucasians to be invited to study with the Chinese family from whom the Wu Ji Chyuan Fa system comes, and is the only caucasian to be recognized with the rank of 'Master' by the family." Tom Garriga is a high ranked kenpoist so there are some similarities to kenpo in his style but that is only in his personal interpretation of Wu Ji Chyuan Fa principles. “While Wu Ji Chyuan Fa could properly be described as a style – and although it does include the development of a personal 'style' as part of what is taught – because of its thorough and methodical approach Wu Ji Chyuan Fa is more properly described as a system of martial art/knowledge.”

06-10-2009, 09:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Shattakan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	It was a closed door system when Tom learnt it, Tom taught the system openly from 1991 until 2002, the system now is taught through private instruction from designated instructors. Even though a style may no longer be taught behind closed doors doesn’t mean all of its higher information is openly taught to anyone, especially those who demonstrate lack of moral character.

06-10-2009, 05:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Shattakan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Contact Tom at Rennick’s Tae Kwon Do Academy, San Juan Island, WA. Free kung fu demonstration at Rennick?s Friday and Saturday - Journal of the San Juans. Rennick’s Tae Kwon Do Academy 960 Guard St Friday Harbor, WA 98250 (360) 378-7536 Tom can tell you who is currently teaching in SLC.

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Ziptac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Shattakan, You just made my day. I've been trying to get somebody to get me something on Master Garriga for almost a year now. I was a former student when Tang Wei was first opened in Cottonwood/Sandy, UT and stupidly let my life get in the way. That is why you made my day. I'm dying to start again. And I'm not the only one. For those who are reading this post and are curious about Wu Ji Chuan Fa. I can tell you first hand that it is something else. It is really hard to bring it down into a one line description, but here it goes: A strong, quick, practical, lifelong, style of martial arts that makes most styles look outdated. With respect I should note, many styles have great value. If I am unsuccessful in finding a way to practice Wu Ji Chuan Fa, then I will be joining one of those.

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SergeTk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 79 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a question what the translation of the Chuan Fa part , is it same as quan (fist)?

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