The main problem with E-Asian martial arts... - Page 3

Gong Sau · 12-24-2003, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAB

Slipping is a defensive and tractical movement. Try a jab to the face while still out of attacking range to block vision of your movement. Then use step side footwork slightly off center line and immediatly punch. The slip is a transitional position or advancement, not an evading move.

Thanks. That might help to look at it that way.

tai-gip · 12-25-2003, 11:52 AM

style this style that...
having been to both thai land and china i can say that ...the thais are very good at thai boxing and the chinese very good at kung fu..... i spent time with the phuket champion and no way was he anywhere near as fast as the chinese kung fu masters i met.... thailand is a place where full contact fighting is a way of life and everyone no's what everyone else is capable in china the guy next door walk walks quitely always smiles to people and talks softly has just as much chance of being the deadliest man alive as the guy on the corner acting like they are because they dont want everyone to know what they are capable off....... the way jet lee move in the movies is slow by comparison ...if there was levels of say one to fifty he would be ten....no way to want to mess with a 9 let alone a one :-)

jubaji · 12-25-2003, 12:02 PM

[quote=tai-gip] in china the guy next door walk walks quitely always smiles to people and talks softly has just as much chance of being the deadliest man alive as the guy on the corner acting like they are because they dont want everyone to know what they are capable off....... the way jet lee move in the movies is slow by comparison ...QUOTE]

tai-gip · 12-25-2003, 12:25 PM

hmmm yep well i tried .....figured as soon as i saw who replied what kind of response there would be good work good to see you continue to emrace the opurtunity to learn and that you realise you dont know everything arnt always right and that someone may have seen something you havnt :-) great work keep it up your bound to go far

jubaji · 12-25-2003, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tai-gip

hmmm yep well i tried .....figured as soon as i saw who replied what kind of response there would be good work good to see you continue to emrace the opurtunity to learn

To learn what? Your silly, childish drivel about the quiet chinese superman? Get over your romantic notions. Reality is quite interesting enough without embellishment.

tai-gip · 12-27-2003, 09:07 AM

jubaji try reading what i said i didnt mention a superman just that in the chinese culture you are less likely to know who is proficent in martial arts than you would be in the thai culture ... and like i said i tried but you have a tendency to try to pick fault rather than see what is being said..and you got it wrong.....

tai-gip · 12-27-2003, 09:19 AM

ohh and just thought i add it isnt quite or romantic im trying to get you to keep your eyes open and not take everything at face value now i may have a small world view that the person i consider most dangerous..because of what i know.. some of his own family isnt even aware he knows any martial arts...in school i got picked once by three guys but the toughest got the others to fight first.... ... there was a realy geeky guy who was into heavey metal and realy quite so one day the toughest guy in school...(teachers got beaten up a couple of times in my school) ... decided to trip him over in front of friends and laugh well the geeky quite guy picked himself up and layed this guy out with one punch this guy was big people called him moose.... now because i payed attention to people and noticed things id noticed that he would have scabs on his nucles and after seeing this acouple of times asked him why...well apparently his dad had been in the army in japan and was tought ninjitsu by a friend of his ..so this guy used to practice punching a log with rope tyed around it to toughen his nuckles......... so for example to so caled toughest guy in school had not been so egotistical and had noticed that this guy had scars or scabs on his nuckles he could have avoided getting punched out in front of his mates..... wonder what would/will happen to you jubaji ..toughest people are the ones you cant pick ..because they are that good they dont need anyone to think they are tough.....

jubaji · 12-27-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tai-gip

jubaji try reading what i said i didnt mention a superman

Oh, I see. So

"in china the guy next door has just as much chance of being the deadliest man alive
they are because they dont want everyone to know what they are capable off....... the way jet lee move in the movies is slow by comparison"

is just average in your mind (such as it is)

tai-gip · 12-30-2003, 11:14 AM

actualy jubaji yes it is average...

thats the point im trying to make im sure you recal poking fun about my girlfriend being able to beat me after doing a style that was only forms ...

there are several anglo instructors who are very good and dont let on ..its generaly a lack of self respect or a low self image that forces people in the martial arts community to want to show how good they are..the best stay quite and you couldnt pick them out.....

and no im not bragging hell im using an alias so what would be the point but ive beaten most of the instructors in melbourne and the people i work with day to day dont think i could punch my way out of a paper bag ..but then on the street i get some people who look at me like they see completely what im capable of and i look at these people and see how dangerous they could be should they choose to do so....

and yes its a stupid wing chun saying but "one who excells as a warrior does not appear formidable"

jubaji · 12-30-2003, 02:57 PM

[quote=tai-gip]
there are several anglo instructors who are very good and dont let on ....the best stay quite and you couldnt pick them out.....

ive beaten most of the instructors in melbourne and the people i work with day to day dont think i could punch my way out of a paper bag ..but then on the street i get some people who look at me like they see completely what im capable of ....
QUOTE]

I'm scared already

Maybe you are the deadliest man alive . I'll bet the movies look like slow-motion compared to you....

guy incognito · 02-15-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Sage

jules,

I don't agree with you for a number of reasons. First, you don't know enough about Asian Martial Arts, because if you did, you'd know that they do hold competitions between different styles, and have done so for centuries... Most of which had no rules. If you're implying that they don't compete in MMA... Then the same can be said about boxing, wrestling and karate... MMA is an accumulation of martial arts, not kung-fu, karate or boxing. Boxing is boxing with boxing rules. You don't see a MMA guy competing in kung-fu tournaments, or boxing on espn...

Secondly, different combat systems serve different purposes. Self-defense programs are not sport-oriented and few would expert a self-defense instructor to win a UFC Championship.

Lastly, your opinion is naive... Judo, karate, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai and elements of kung-fu are East Asian Martial Arts that are integrated in MMA all the time.

new to forum what is mma?

m.artist · 02-15-2004, 07:09 PM

mixed martial arts.
bjj=brazilian jiujitsu
jkd=jeet kune do
nhb=no holds barred
ufc=ultimate fighting championships
tjj=traditional jiujutsu
i think that about covers it

oh wait
tkd-tae kwon do
tsd-tang soo do
wc=wing chun
um...now i think that's it

ninjaiboy22 · 02-15-2004, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m.artist

mixed martial arts.
bjj=brazilian jiujitsu
jkd=jeet kune do
nhb=no holds barred
ufc=ultimate fighting championships
tjj=traditional jiujutsu
i think that about covers it

oh wait
tkd-tae kwon do
tsd-tang soo do
wc=wing chun
um...now i think that's it

U forgot the obvious;
kf= Kung Fu

guy incognito · 02-15-2004, 07:53 PM

Dont forget NKD-No kan do

Rudolphuss · 02-15-2004, 09:34 PM

TB=Taebo
TMA=Traditional Martial Arts

12-25-2003, 11:52 AM	#32 (permalink)
tai-gip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 104	style this style that... having been to both thai land and china i can say that ...the thais are very good at thai boxing and the chinese very good at kung fu..... i spent time with the phuket champion and no way was he anywhere near as fast as the chinese kung fu masters i met.... thailand is a place where full contact fighting is a way of life and everyone no's what everyone else is capable in china the guy next door walk walks quitely always smiles to people and talks softly has just as much chance of being the deadliest man alive as the guy on the corner acting like they are because they dont want everyone to know what they are capable off....... the way jet lee move in the movies is slow by comparison ...if there was levels of say one to fifty he would be ten....no way to want to mess with a 9 let alone a one :-) __________________ i am here today

12-25-2003, 12:02 PM	#33 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,110	[quote=tai-gip] in china the guy next door walk walks quitely always smiles to people and talks softly has just as much chance of being the deadliest man alive as the guy on the corner acting like they are because they dont want everyone to know what they are capable off....... the way jet lee move in the movies is slow by comparison ...QUOTE] __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

12-25-2003, 12:25 PM	#34 (permalink)
tai-gip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 104	hmmm yep well i tried .....figured as soon as i saw who replied what kind of response there would be good work good to see you continue to emrace the opurtunity to learn and that you realise you dont know everything arnt always right and that someone may have seen something you havnt :-) great work keep it up your bound to go far __________________ i am here today

12-27-2003, 09:07 AM	#36 (permalink)
tai-gip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 104	jubaji try reading what i said i didnt mention a superman just that in the chinese culture you are less likely to know who is proficent in martial arts than you would be in the thai culture ... and like i said i tried but you have a tendency to try to pick fault rather than see what is being said..and you got it wrong..... __________________ i am here today

12-27-2003, 09:19 AM	#37 (permalink)
tai-gip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 104	ohh and just thought i add it isnt quite or romantic im trying to get you to keep your eyes open and not take everything at face value now i may have a small world view that the person i consider most dangerous..because of what i know.. some of his own family isnt even aware he knows any martial arts...in school i got picked once by three guys but the toughest got the others to fight first.... ... there was a realy geeky guy who was into heavey metal and realy quite so one day the toughest guy in school...(teachers got beaten up a couple of times in my school) ... decided to trip him over in front of friends and laugh well the geeky quite guy picked himself up and layed this guy out with one punch this guy was big people called him moose.... now because i payed attention to people and noticed things id noticed that he would have scabs on his nucles and after seeing this acouple of times asked him why...well apparently his dad had been in the army in japan and was tought ninjitsu by a friend of his ..so this guy used to practice punching a log with rope tyed around it to toughen his nuckles......... so for example to so caled toughest guy in school had not been so egotistical and had noticed that this guy had scars or scabs on his nuckles he could have avoided getting punched out in front of his mates..... wonder what would/will happen to you jubaji ..toughest people are the ones you cant pick ..because they are that good they dont need anyone to think they are tough..... __________________ i am here today

12-30-2003, 11:14 AM	#39 (permalink)
tai-gip Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 104	actualy jubaji yes it is average... thats the point im trying to make im sure you recal poking fun about my girlfriend being able to beat me after doing a style that was only forms ... there are several anglo instructors who are very good and dont let on ..its generaly a lack of self respect or a low self image that forces people in the martial arts community to want to show how good they are..the best stay quite and you couldnt pick them out..... and no im not bragging hell im using an alias so what would be the point but ive beaten most of the instructors in melbourne and the people i work with day to day dont think i could punch my way out of a paper bag ..but then on the street i get some people who look at me like they see completely what im capable of and i look at these people and see how dangerous they could be should they choose to do so.... and yes its a stupid wing chun saying but "one who excells as a warrior does not appear formidable" __________________ i am here today

12-30-2003, 02:57 PM	#40 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,110	[quote=tai-gip] there are several anglo instructors who are very good and dont let on ....the best stay quite and you couldnt pick them out..... ive beaten most of the instructors in melbourne and the people i work with day to day dont think i could punch my way out of a paper bag ..but then on the street i get some people who look at me like they see completely what im capable of .... QUOTE] I'm scared already Maybe you are the deadliest man alive . I'll bet the movies look like slow-motion compared to you.... __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

02-15-2004, 07:09 PM	#42 (permalink)
m.artist Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 919	mixed martial arts. bjj=brazilian jiujitsu jkd=jeet kune do nhb=no holds barred ufc=ultimate fighting championships tjj=traditional jiujutsu i think that about covers it oh wait tkd-tae kwon do tsd-tang soo do wc=wing chun um...now i think that's it __________________ "Before you open your mouth to speak, please make sure it's an improvement upon the silence."

02-15-2004, 07:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
guy incognito Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 435	mma Dont forget NKD-No kan do

02-15-2004, 09:34 PM	#45 (permalink)
Rudolphuss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 81	TB=Taebo TMA=Traditional Martial Arts

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