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Old 10-14-2003, 03:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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anyone know any excersizes to increase chi and or transfer it? i have read a couple of books on this from internal practitioners in tai chi and pa kua/ba gua but they didn't talk about how to do it, only that they could.
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Old 10-14-2003, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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but they didn't talk about how to do it
Gee, I wonder why?


Keep in mind, you have to remain a little skeptical about all this Chi business. There may or may not be something to it. But I have yet to witness first hand all the miraculous and mystifying tales I've heard about the great Chi Masters...
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anyone know any excersizes to increase chi and or transfer it? i have read a couple of books on this from internal practitioners in tai chi and pa kua/ba gua but they didn't talk about how to do it, only that they could.
any help would be appreciated.
i blame stuff like that on translation. it's not so much transferring chi, or increasing chi, as it is flowing and fun stuff like that. i can't really answer your question, though, because i just don't know. i could probably ask some people i know, though, and they could probably answer your question. to bad it's three in the morning.
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anyone know any excersizes to increase chi and or transfer it? i have read a couple of books on this from internal practitioners in tai chi and pa kua/ba gua but they didn't talk about how to do it, only that they could.
any help would be appreciated.
I have no idea how to cultivate qi. I have heard that it takes years of practice to do it.

Chinese MA ists don't really talk openly about what they do. You have to make a regular time commitment with them before they share anything with you...even then it could be watered down.
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I have no idea how to cultivate qi. I have heard that it takes years of practice to do it.
It takes a lot of time.... you also have to prepare your body if you want to do some serious business and avoid major health problems.....

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Chinese MA ists don't really talk openly about what they do. You have to make a regular time commitment with them before they share anything with you...even then it could be watered down.
Yes. This is not only true with CMAs, also malaysian-indonesian-filipino arts.
You can't learn serious things by going to 2-3 classes a week..... it is an important time commitment and even then won't imply that you will get anything if you don't become an indoor student.
There is a huge difference in what indoor and outdoor students learn....
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I know what you mean. Its the Asian way of doing things. Very difficult to understand if you haven't been exposed to it.
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Doesnt take long at all actually, just need to do it every day and know what you're doing with proper techniques and such. There are many non taichi people who are better at it than most tai chi practitioners simply because they use more practical method. Search for some stuff online, you'll eventually get to some good sources. Just stay away from shitty geocities type pages.
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To get the full effects it takes years....
I don't advise you to pratcice it alone without previous instruction as it can seriously affect your health...

I practiced silat breathing exercises in the wrong way once, just before going to a boxing class.....while doing pad work I felt pressure in my ears, completely lost balance and had to sit down for 10 minutes....
In China there have been cases of death due to bad chi quong practices...
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if you can, get the book "the breath of life". it answers a lot of questions and has tons of chi excercises.
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In China there have been cases of death due to bad chi quong practices...
That's just what they called it. Actually some guy got drunk and fell asleep in his soup at 5 AM.
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nothing dramatic call it chi if you want its the energy that joins everything in the universe you simply choose by intent what you want to do with it..its already there do dont build it up its already flowing through you just make it do what you want it to
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Cultivating chi is not that difficult. It is done slightly different for different applications. As for transfering it, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. You can certainly direct it, though.
The most basic cultivation of chi comes from awareness maintenance of proper posture, joint movement, relaxation and breathing. The skill of feeling and listening to what is the correct postion of the body will allow you to relax. As your attention becomes more clearly focused you will see the relationship with your breathing and the relaxation. So you must have a calm mind, no thinking, just feeling.
As for directing it, my experience in this is mostly martial. Chi is used mainly for you to train the most effective postures and movement, (the most powerful and relaxed position will also allow for optimal chi flow). The sensation that it creates helps you detect weakness and strength in your structure during movments. Once you understand how to position the joints and bones to allow "full" relaxation (w/ chi flow), then you must coordinate the relaxation and the breathing to direct the chi.
To be effective, it is a bit more complicated. However, I don't feel comfortable going into details about internal work or chi excercises online. For that you should find a good teacher. I you want to, check out iliqchuan.org
it might be down for a few days but should be up soon. Master Sam Chin is awesome. I hope that was some help.
Most of the hype about chi is just b.s. But it definately has its uses, in martial arts and health.
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