The Ultimate in Martial Arts

The_student · 03-25-2004, 04:36 PM

Please HELP!!

I was thinking of begin to put in tire hitting in my training, I have fixed the tired and everything but I have a couple of questions thou

The onle thread that meantion this subject at all is this IRON BAR TRAINING /STICK POWER TRAINING

But it wasn't what I was looking for

How much ( in minutes) should I train, how many days a week etc..
How to hit to avoid damage my wrist?

Any thought of this is of interest.

Thanks!

yenhoi · 03-25-2004, 04:53 PM

Three 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest in-between per day or every other day should be a good start.

Its also a good idea to throw your tire.

konghan · 03-25-2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The_student

Please HELP!!

I was thinking of begin to put in tire hitting in my training, I have fixed the tired and everything but I have a couple of questions thou

The onle thread that meantion this subject at all is this IRON BAR TRAINING /STICK POWER TRAINING

But it wasn't what I was looking for

How much ( in minutes) should I train, how many days a week etc..
How to hit to avoid damage my wrist?

Any thought of this is of interest.

Thanks!

Tire is harder than punching bag. It is basically to strengthened your bare fist knuckles against hard objects.

Wrap your fist not too thick just enough to prevent the knuckles skin from peeling off too fast. Eventually they will peel though. Apply medicinal ointment. If possible make sure the surface of the tire is smooth, this will help prevent the kunckle skin from peeling too soon.

I would punch 100x for each left & right, then rest for maybe a minute, shake my arms by punching thin air then go back punching the tire again. 6 - 10 repetition. Usually after training the knuckles will feel sore & a bit swelling too couple with skin peeling. We want to let this heal first before training again usually 1 week sometimes 2 weeks depending on how fast it heals. Donot overwork, start slow & always apply medicinal ointment to prevent hurt ,blood clotting & muscle spasm & to help the fist bones gets stronger too.

In due time the knuckle skin, bones & muscle will hardened & your fist will be evenly straight & by that time you`ll be able to train more.

As far as the wrist, start slow & do push ups as well as wrist exercises by turning them around or up & down holding on a 5 or 10 lbs weight.

The_student · 03-26-2004, 01:39 AM

Hmm, acually I was interesting mainly in the use of the stick, but it have taken a interesting turn

Do you use tires to hit on with barehands? Never heard of it

But it seems to be a rather godd way to conditons your hands, and getting punsching power

Anyway, It was power hitting with the stick as meantion above I like to get some information about

konghan · 03-26-2004, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_student

Hmm, acually I was interesting mainly in the use of the stick, but it have taken a interesting turn

Do you use tires to hit on with barehands? Never heard of it

But it seems to be a rather godd way to conditons your hands, and getting punsching power

Anyway, It was power hitting with the stick as meantion above I like to get some information about

Oops, sorry, I thought you were talking about fist training.

Reactor · 03-26-2004, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The_student

Hmm, acually I was interesting mainly in the use of the stick, but it have taken a interesting turn

Do you use tires to hit on with barehands? Never heard of it

But it seems to be a rather godd way to conditons your hands, and getting punsching power

Anyway, It was power hitting with the stick as meantion above I like to get some information about

Hand toughening by striking tires, makiwaras, etc. have long-term deleterious effects. Depending on how long and how intense one practices in this type of training, expect to have problems by the time you hit 50!

Regarding tire training for arnis/kali/eskrima, check out one of the videos of Bobby Taboada's Balintawak. It has a section/demo on the subject.

Cheers,
Reactor

tvb · 03-26-2004, 09:14 AM

You could try pyramid training 10 seconds hitting the tire at full speed then 10 seconds rest 20 seconds hitting then 20 rest etc.. up to 1 minute and back again.
This not only for more speed and power but also to build up stamina.

konghan · 03-26-2004, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Reactor

Hand toughening by striking tires, makiwaras, etc. have long-term deleterious effects. Depending on how long and how intense one practices in this type of training, expect to have problems by the time you hit 50!

Regarding tire training for arnis/kali/eskrima, check out one of the videos of Bobby Taboada's Balintawak. It has a section/demo on the subject.

Cheers,
Reactor

That is why training should be done properly & slowly. Not only fist training, but any form of physical training if done improperly will result in health problems in later years.

K Williams · 03-27-2004, 12:53 PM

Balintawak Volume 5
http://www.mati.com/videos.html#Taboada

Essential Single Stick Skills #2
http://www.cfw2.com/product.asp?s=cf...S2&dept_id=260

Make sure the tire you're using doesn't have any of the steel belt showing. The wire will run straight into your palm when using the live hand. Be careful when striking because the tires cause some rebound. I split my lip and loosened a tooth because of this.

The_student · 03-27-2004, 08:03 PM

Thanks alot for the links and the advise.
I'll try not to loose any tooths

Thanks!

03-25-2004, 04:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
The_student Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tire Hitting /power hitting Please HELP!! I was thinking of begin to put in tire hitting in my training, I have fixed the tired and everything but I have a couple of questions thou The onle thread that meantion this subject at all is this IRON BAR TRAINING /STICK POWER TRAINING But it wasn't what I was looking for How much ( in minutes) should I train, how many days a week etc.. How to hit to avoid damage my wrist? Any thought of this is of interest. Thanks!

03-25-2004, 04:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
yenhoi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reno, Nv Posts: 211 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Three 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest in-between per day or every other day should be a good start. Its also a good idea to throw your tire. __________________ strike!

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K Williams Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: USA Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tire Training videos Balintawak Volume 5 http://www.mati.com/videos.html#Taboada Essential Single Stick Skills #2 http://www.cfw2.com/product.asp?s=cf...S2&dept_id=260 Make sure the tire you're using doesn't have any of the steel belt showing. The wire will run straight into your palm when using the live hand. Be careful when striking because the tires cause some rebound. I split my lip and loosened a tooth because of this. __________________ K. Williams

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The_student Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm, acually I was interesting mainly in the use of the stick, but it have taken a interesting turn Do you use tires to hit on with barehands? Never heard of it But it seems to be a rather godd way to conditons your hands, and getting punsching power Anyway, It was power hitting with the stick as meantion above I like to get some information about

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tvb Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You could try pyramid training 10 seconds hitting the tire at full speed then 10 seconds rest 20 seconds hitting then 20 rest etc.. up to 1 minute and back again. This not only for more speed and power but also to build up stamina.

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The_student Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 22 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks alot for the links and the advise. I'll try not to loose any tooths Thanks!

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