MAMike

Again:

Okay, i give you the chance, here and know, to prove that Greg managed the mishandle with Grandmaster Tortal's trip to germany and europe. No rumors allowed. I would see some paper or anythingelse that prove what you say....

As you see i wasn't threating to you. I complete my sentence in italic words..

Another example of how wrong you real are.....

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MAMike

Quat erat demonstrandum. Since this, all your "facts" are just rumors.....

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kaliace

Mike,

I would like to pose a question first.

How much time have you spent with Grand Master Jerson Tortal and/or his son Master Jerson Jr.?

Not in the classroom, Dojo, or seminar, but how much time have you spent one on one with them?

Thank You,
Michael G Olive

MAMike

I saw that coming. You use only excuses because you have no proofs for your rumors. I always still waiting....

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kaliace

So let me get this straight,
You have never met Grand Master Tortal, yet you have his photo on your website and claim to be The Dekiti Tirsia Siradas for Germany? Europe?
Why should I give you the written proof when what you put out there is fraudulent? You use Grand Master Tortal to forward your own selfish goals, but you have never trained with the man?
You have never listened to this Great man express his concern for not being able to go to Europe. To worry his self sick about letting everyone, even you, down.
What reason did Greg give for Grand Master not being there? I have seen the photos, what Greg was showing is not Dekiti Tirsia; it is his own “style”. Is that right to go over on Grand Masters name a spread his own agenda and not the true system of Dekiti Tirsia? What more proof do you need than the fact that Grand Master did not go and Greg did?

Until you have spent time with Grand Master and open your mind to his wisdom you will never understand how misguided you are.

Lastly what I speak of I have heard and seen first hand. If you do not belive that then you must not belive the Grand Master. That is why you are wrong.
Michael G Olive

MAMike

*lol* The only proof you made is that you are a liar. I gave you the chance to clarify the topic. What do you do? You attack me and my motives. You attack my loyality and my work. Further you push another person between our differences. You're not at the position to say me that i didn't believe in Grandmaster and in Dekiti Tirsia Siradas. You are only a small, frustrated boy.

You only try to throw out others from the race to become the number one.
Go back to your circus you little clown.....

Regards, Mike

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kaliace

Wow,
It seems like I made a friend.

Der Tag von Atonement kommt für Sie

Michael G Olive

danjuandesiga

MA Mike vs Kaliace....

one of them is being called out as a fraud and the other one unquestionably appears more legit than the other.

but back to the main topic. I saw those "Fear No Man on Earth" tapes. Old disco 60's - 70's videofootage or not. They're still crap.

Regarding Greg Alland's legitimacy, and from watching how he moves on tape, I don't see myself wanting to move like him at all. There are better PTK fighters/instructors around to model after. Eric Knaus being one of them.

Rock on with your stick on,
Dan Juan de Siga

VT3

Yeah Righton, Alland isn't all that, Heckk I'd beat his ass to the ground, believe me. So Tanner is nothing either! If he's friends and a student of Alland! Yeah, bring them both on any day "sinatirsawali" is crap. con man Greg Alland tapes are BS!

tigrtclaw

What was that VT3?

Are you actually issuing out a challenge out to fight Greg Alland and/or David Tanner?

(With Sticks, empty hands or what?)

TopDog

VT3, Those are Very Brash statements indeed.
So What makes you think that you can beat Greg Alland, let alone Tanner, who fought professionally as a kickboxer. I heard that Tanner is very well accustomed to accepting challenges.

danjuandesiga

If there is a match going on, don't forget to tape it.
Screw the credentials and what the paper says.
Be real and back the smack with some ACTION

DanJuandeSiga

tigrtclaw

So What's the news- :
Is there going to be any action, or just lame insults and reckless banter thrown around?



VT3 Are you going to step up?

TopDog

This stuff is really funny.
How do people get so upset over things and people that they hardly even know, or know about?

VT3

I said what I said! if Greg Alland or Tanner Dustin Etan or whatever his silly name is wants to step up then they can bring it. Theres no lame banter cause I'm all game. lets go bare handed with witnesses and roll the camera too!