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Old 07-27-2004, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all,

I'm new here and was glad to find a forum with knowledgable members. Well, my question is this: I live on Long Island, NY and wish to study Silat. The person who is about 10 minutes from me is a man named Roberto Torres of Talio Silat. Does anyone know of his background, and more importantly, has he learned, and does he teach authentic Silat?

I've studied for over 10 years, with my main art being Wing Chun with crosstraining in JKD and BJJ. Will Silat assist in enhancing my close quarter skills? Thanks all!



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Hello Gordo,

I met Tuhon Torres and his family last year at the Sayoc Sama Sama event. I had the opportunity to not only train with him and his daughters but also interview him as well. Very nice guy and highly skilled in Kuntao Silat, as well as boxing and a variety of FMA's.

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Will Silat assist in enhancing my close quarter skills?
It depends on the silat systems but all I know will enhance your close quarter skills...
I see it the other way, the main reason I train in Wing Chun is to developp the sensitivity I need in silat....
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I met Tuhon Torres and his family last year at the Sayoc Sama Sama event. I had the opportunity to not only train with him and his daughters but also interview him as well. Very nice guy and highly skilled in Kuntao Silat, as well as boxing and a variety of FMA's.

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Guro Steve L.,

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to be dropping by Tuhon Torres' school later this weekend. Are you one of Tuhon Sayoc's students/instructors? I had the opportunity some years ago to participate in the Bravo and Charlie seminars and found them incredible.


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It depends on the silat systems but all I know will enhance your close quarter skills...
I see it the other way, the main reason I train in Wing Chun is to developp the sensitivity I need in silat....

Yes, I figured it wouldn't hurt to complement my wing chun with more close quarter concepts. My friend who I work out with showed me some kali drills which were very different from Wing Chun sensitivity drills that I found were a great addition to my skillset. I also found adding southern mantis chi sao another fine supplement as well.


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Old 07-28-2004, 08:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hello Gordo,

Yes, I am a student in Sayoc Kali, with Tuhon Sayoc.

Tuhon Torres, and Tuhon Chris Sayoc go way, way back in their history together. Last year Tuhon Torres taught segments of his Silat curriculum at Sama Sama, it included takedowns and striking, Sarong, Sayoc Fighting Systems(stick work), and even a demonstration of tactical boxing skills from his daughters. Definitely a great person to train with.

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Guro Steve L., All,

I am quite disheartened now. I called up Tuhon Torres last night and found out that he doesn't hold regular classes anymore, he mainly does private instruction and semiars. Now I guess I'll have to start looking for another Silat/Kali teacher in the Long Island, NY area. It was already so hard to find him.

Does anyone know of anyone else they could reccomend in the Long Island, Ny area? I found this other person that has a lineage to Herman Suwanda by the name of Charles Chi. I looked at his website and it looked a little strange for a silat/kali/jkd instructor:

http://www.nymatc.com/

From the pictures though, his adult class seems to take a no-nonsense approach which is what I'm looking for. Any thoughts on this?

Also, would it be disrespectful if I emailed Tuhon Torres again to see if there are any other Silat/Kali teachers he would reccomend? I wouldn't want him to take it as a disrespectful question.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. If someone wants to PM me, it'd be great too.
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Guros Chuck and Kara are Certified Talio-Silat Sarong Instructors.They Train with Tuhon Torres on a regular basis and are available to teach ,Great people to train with!
Tuhon Torres is Awesome,THere is Nothing the man can't do!and he has got the Heart to match his Incredible amount of knowledge.

Guro Chuck is Hosting Sayoc Fighting System With Tuhon Felix Cortes this coming weekend Saturday Aug 7,You got to meet Tuhon Felix if you haven't already.He's THE MAN!


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Gillin,

Thanks for the info. I'm going to be doing more research on Silat on Long Island. Rare arts are tough to locate.



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So I'm definitely wary of this guy now:

http://www.nymatc.com/


I found out even though Inosanto lists him as an instructor under him, he learned through seminars, not through consistent training. I couldn't believe Inosanto uses seminars to certify instructors. I'm also led to believe his Silat through Herman Suwanda was also done through seminars. This totally sucks. Rare arts like Silat are so tough to find on Long Island, NY. I think I'm going to call Tuhon Roberto Torres again to see maybe if he has senior instructors that teach part time. I truly wish to learn under his lineage.


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Mr Gordo,

This is Guro Chuck Giangreco from NY. I just spoke to Tuhon Torres about your request and he has asked me to contact you about your Talio Silat training.

Please feel free to contact me at:

Westchester Martial Arts Academy
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I came across this on the net.

Silat Perisai Diri
Guru Yana (Tribe of Java)
743 8th Ave. btw 46th and 47th, 3rd Fl.
New York 10010
347-525-4523

Hope it helps. I might try it myself.
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Mr Gordo,

This is Guro Chuck Giangreco from NY. I just spoke to Tuhon Torres about your request and he has asked me to contact you about your Talio Silat training.

Please feel free to contact me at:

Westchester Martial Arts Academy
3 Sunnyside Terrace
Eastchester, NY 10709
914-961-1800
wmacademy@earthlink.net

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Hello All,

I would highly recommend you train with Tuhon Torres and Guro Chuck any chance you can get. Fantastic martial artists!!

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