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Old 09-04-2004, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How many of you do FMA Ground Work

What style do you practice and how much time do you spend training on the ground?
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many practitioners in Europe do bjj or wrestling.
me: usually 2-3 times a week.
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Old 09-05-2004, 11:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Daniel "Mumbakki" Foronda's Submission Dungeon in Pasig, Metro manila is a group that specializes in FMA grappling skills, especially Boltong Ilfigao Wrestling, along with other styles of dumong among them Pekiti. How much class time do they devote to grappling? Almost all of it.
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I started training Kali 1-2 times/week with a friend of mine and he is doing Kali Groundwork. I will do groundwork with him very soon, too (I think)...

The style is pekiti-tirsia kali (www.pekiti-tirsia.net).

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are we talking sport grappling, single vs multiple, seated versus standing? Most of the principals you can do standing can be applied to the ground, but in addition locks are universal when you understand levers and fulcrums. Our org. does spend quite a bit of time, training from harimaw or seated positions with both weapons, and empty hands.
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Daniel "Mumbakki" Foronda's Submission Dungeon in Pasig, Metro manila is a group that specializes in FMA grappling skills, especially Boltong Ilfigao Wrestling, along with other styles of dumong among them Pekiti. How much class time do they devote to grappling? Almost all of it.
Do you know what the Boltong Ifugao wrestling looks like?
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I wonder if there are any other submission or grappling groups utilizing indigenous Philipines wrestling in thier curuculim?
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Do you know what the Boltong Ifugao wrestling looks like?
Y'all can disregard this question. Shootodog awnsered it in the "Garimot (Harimaw) Buno" thread.
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Talking haribon dumog

Hi,
We practice a lot of ground and submission stuff in Haribon Dumog. We work a lot of the positioning like the bjj and there are also throws and takedowns and such like greco roman/freestyle/mma type stuff. We utilize a lot of the same submissions too. The human body still gets locked out the same no matter what color you are or what language you speak.
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Hey Chenstyle44,
Do you know what the origin of Haribon Dumog is, did the founder develop it from his stick experiance, is it from provincial or tribal wrestling, a family style, or modern blend of diffrent techniques? Thanks. Can you also find out if it was developed in the Philipines, then what part? Thanks.
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Haribon Dumog was developed by my instructor Dan Rutano.
You can get all the info you want from him by accessing his website and emailing him.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/haribondu...isHaribon.html

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http://members.shaw.ca/estokada/aboutus.html

Tell him Gord sent you.

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So let me see if I understand correctly from the website; he learned dumog at the age of 8 in Aklan province, Panay. And since then he's further researched and developed his art by training with other GM's. Am I to gather from the photos that he was a student of PG Edgar Sulite and perhaps Richard Bustillo, GM Ben Largusa, Cacoy and others?

I like the name Haribon, what do you think of his dumog book?
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Talking Guro Dan

Hiiii,
yaaaaahhh!
Yes, Guro Dan has been training in one art or another since he was 8.
Richard Bustillo and Edgar Sulite are people whom he has brought up here for seminars and has attained a rank under both gentlemen. (Im assuming that part.)
His strongest stories center around a club that was called red lightning.
He mentioned gm johnny chiuten as one of his instructors and has also been connected with gm largusa and christopher ricketts.
Guro Dan is highly skilled and has passed a lot of knowledge on to all of us who have been lucky enough to train with him. His book on Dumog is a great reference in regards to empty hand applications of weapons movements. I got a lot out of it. Its worth the cost, definitely.
I think Haribon is the name of the monkey eating eagle, which is native to the Phillipines.
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