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Old 09-23-2004, 02:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kaliace may be the best person to awnser this, can someone give me a detailed description of the dekiti-tersia siradas system. I'm curious as to what it encompasses. Thanks.
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Hi Curcible,

a good description with some photos from Grandmaster Tortal and his son you'll found at Mark Wiley's book "Filipino Fighting Arts"



I also have a PDF-File from that article. Just need your email.....

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Here is a good quick summary of the system,

“Dekiti Tirsia Siradas Kali System is an ancient, authentic and unadulterated Filipino martial arts indigenous to the island of Negros in the Visayan Region of the Philippines This fighting art is very combative with emphasis on stick and bladed weapons as well as empty hand techniques. It has been proven effective many times in actual combat particularly during World War II.

The name of the system came from three words from the Illongo dialect.

Dekiti translated into the Tagalog dialect is “Malapit” of “Dekit”. In English it means very close or near. Its emphasis is on close quarter fighting in which you cornered the opponent in an area, to close and devastate him.

Tirsia means “gua sa wala” or “sa tuo” or quartering in fighting , “pasulod”. It means to push the enemy to a corner or an area with three-corner side preventing him to escape or runaway from multiple deadly blows and thrustes.

Siradas means to stop your opponent from getting in or out , for the opponent not to able to penetrate in any angle of attack.

Dekiti Tirsia Siradas Kali is the family martial art system of the Tortal Clan. Its founder Supreme Master Balbino Tortal learned kali from his father Segundito Tortal and grandfather Norberto Tortal. The offical organization managing Dekiti Tirsia Siradas Kali is the Philippine Arnis (Kali) Escrima Martial Arts Federation International Incorporation. The son of Balbino Tortal, Grandmaster Jerson Tortal Sr., today heads the organization and together with his son, Master Jerson Tortal Jr” - Philippine Arnis (Kali) Escrima Martial Arts Federation International Inc.
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I know in the past GT Tortal was working with the Philipine military, is this no longer the case? Do you know what branch of the military it was? Thanks for the replies. MAMike, I actually have acopy of the book, though some friends borrowed it as a reference for a documentry. Hopefully I'll get it back in the future, thanks for the offer
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I know in the past GT Tortal was working with the Philipine military, is this no longer the case? Do you know what branch of the military it was? Thanks for the replies. MAMike, I actually have acopy of the book, though some friends borrowed it as a reference for a documentry. Hopefully I'll get it back in the future, thanks for the offer
Grand Master Jerson Tortal still regularly teaches the Philippine military, ROTC, Philippine Army Counter Intelligence, and most recently the JUSMAG (Joint United States Military Assistance Group). Grand Master has also taught at several United States Police Academies. Even though his system is blade base, it can be easily adapted to the restrictive Law Enforcement environment here in the US.

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Thanks Michael,
How long have you been training with GT Tortal? What does ROTC stand for? Thanks again.
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How long have you been training with GT Tortal? What does ROTC stand for? Thanks again.
If memory serves it is Recruit Officer Training Class.

I met Grand Master in 2002 at a seminar. I trained with him extensively during his last US tour, or as Grand Master would put it “rigid training”.

I still have lots to learn, and I really enjoy the system.

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Anyone know if there's any west coast instructors for Dekiti Tirsia?
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Anyone know if there's any west coast instructors for Dekiti Tirsia?
There is someone in the Bay area. Please send me your contact information and I will make sure it gets to him.
Thank you for your interest,

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My name is Brandon Emory, I've trained in the system Dekiti-Tirsia-Siradas for a couple years now. I have trained under Grand Master "Nene" Tortal, Master Tortal, MasGuru Greg Alland, and Guru Michael Perry. I was wondering where you are based at? I started out by meeting Mr. Perry at a seminar he taught with one of my sister schools. I would like to have furthur conversations with you. You can e-mail me at bemory@yadtel.net. Thank you.

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Hello,

I am based out of Missouri.

When did you first get a chance to meet Grand Master Jerson Tortal? What did you think of the training you received from him?

Hope to hear from you soon,

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Hi,

I thought you're into a Military,sorry G2 stands for Int'l Div.of the Army HQ.
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