The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Panatukan · 04-14-2006, 09:17 PM

Iv seen some of the sayoc dvds and they are great.
I also like panatukan silat with guro marc.
Can you guys give me some good tips on dvds that corver stuff like that and not for beginers.
Is the FCS kali ( RAY DIONALDO and crew) dvds any good?

danjuandesiga · 04-15-2006, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panatukan

Iv seen some of the sayoc dvds and they are great.
I also like panatukan silat with guro marc.
Can you guys give me some good tips on dvds that corver stuff like that and not for beginers.
Is the FCS kali ( RAY DIONALDO and crew) dvds any good?

Try looking up "Kali-Tudo" at http://dogbrothers.com and their other stuff.

Panatukan · 04-15-2006, 02:42 PM

I like the dog brothers stick fighting dvds.
Iv seen most of them but not the new drills dvd.
But if I wanna fight in a cage I like the mma stuff more.
any other tips on good dvds?

danjuandesiga · 04-15-2006, 02:57 PM

Seriously, the Kali Tudo dvd is MMA training without the sticks.
Log into their site http://dogbrothers.com and click on the Kali Tudo video.
You'll see what I'm talking about.

yenhoi · 04-16-2006, 09:26 AM

Rick Faye: www.mnkali.com

Great panantukan series.

Panatukan · 04-16-2006, 11:19 PM

Sounds good but has anyone seen the fcs kali dvds?

Paco · 04-17-2006, 10:50 AM

I train with Guro Pipo who is under Tuhon Ray and I have to say the FCS dvd's are really good. For starters, Guro Ray Cole put out the system's curriculum in 5 dvd's, so you can constantly check and refer to your material. (How many times have you been working out with your buddy and went: "HOW did that technique go? Shit, I forgot") See the website. I can tell you that watching Tuhon Ray in action is pretty wild, I saw him live when he was in Puerto Rico, and those seminars are available on DVD. If you are coming in from any other Filipino system, I still think that you can find plenty of stuff in all of the DVD's to work with. Depends on exactly what you are looking for, though. But I have seen videos/dvd's from other fma's and these rank way up there. Check out the website and tell me what you think.

Panatukan · 04-17-2006, 06:26 PM

thx for the info paco just what I wanted to heer.
Im from kali-sikaran and Kambatan arnis (Modern arnis)
Ill check it out.
What dvds do you like the most?
Im thinking of buying the curriculum 1-5, the panatukan 1-2, punyo mayo vol 1 and maybe the sarong stuff.
Is the silat dvd any good?

Paco · 04-18-2006, 10:13 AM

Well, I train FCS so the dvd's are a must for my library as reference tools.
All of the dvd's are good. If you haven't seen Tuhon Ray in action be sure to get any of the seminar or fcs gathering dvd's.
I have Guro Ray Cole's silat dvd (vol. 1) and I like it. It teaches the basic (3 out of a total 12, which I understand are forthcoming) djurus, followed by some combat applications and the sambuts (two-man drill). The bulk of the tape goes to dissecting the sambuts. In my opinion, it's teaching an empty hand flow outside of the hubud and panatukan/boxing format- not bad at all. I dunno if an advanced silat player would get the same out of it, though. You should try contacting Guro Ray Cole (I dunno if you can do it thru the website: www.fcskali.com) if you want more details. I also have Tuhon Ray's advance knife fighting dvd as well as Guro Rafy Pambuan's espada-daga dvd both are great as well. While all of the dvd's are full of different techniques, try to remember that FCS is a concept-based martial art- and what the dvd's are trying to show is ways that those concepts can be applied.

Sun_Helmet · 04-19-2006, 11:13 AM

Tuhon Ray Dionaldo is also shooting a new DVD for the Sayoc Fighting System, featuring Tuhon Felix Cortes as well. This should be out by end of summer or fall 2006. These will be stick oriented tactics.

--Rafael--
Sayoc Kali

Panatukan · 04-19-2006, 05:52 PM

Cant wait for that one.
I dont know mutch about the sayoc stick fighting, but the knife work is the best I ever seen... And I seen alot in my 10 year in fma. So if its half as good with stick Im happy. We need more of this stuff in sweden...

Sisco T. · 04-23-2006, 12:49 AM

i'm with danjuandesiga on investing in guro marc's kali tudo. if you want the art part of panantukan(the sectors,sweeps,etc.) maybe halleck's or harley elmore's are more suited to you- awesome DVDs. if you want the art AND how to fight it/ spar it kali tudo is what you want to buy and learn from.

salami · 04-23-2006, 04:50 AM

get the inosanto video tapes, don't settle for watered down material

Panatukan · 04-27-2006, 11:25 AM

I have the inosanto ,halleck and the harley elmore dvds all great !!!!
But I dont think Im in to the kali-tudo stuff (I train mma) but I will buy the drill dvd with the dog brothers. I love the sayoc stuff and Im going to check out the fcs kali dvds. Any more tips guys ?
Maybe some good silat stuff?

danjuandesiga · 04-27-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panatukan

I dont think Im in to the kali-tudo stuff (I train mma)

TRUST ME on this one, bro.... log into http://dogbrothers.com and on the front page with the buttons/links to view the videos, click onto the Kali Tudo link and you will see KT training as it would apply to MMA training. I know you'd DIG IT!

04-14-2006, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Panatukan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kali dvds Iv seen some of the sayoc dvds and they are great. I also like panatukan silat with guro marc. Can you guys give me some good tips on dvds that corver stuff like that and not for beginers. Is the FCS kali ( RAY DIONALDO and crew) dvds any good?

04-15-2006, 02:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
danjuandesiga Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 373 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Seriously, the Kali Tudo dvd is MMA training without the sticks. Log into their site http://dogbrothers.com and click on the Kali Tudo video. You'll see what I'm talking about. __________________ Daniel Arola DAMAG-INC [Daniel Arola Martial Arts Group-Inc.] e-mail: houstonkaligroup@yahoo.com http://www.myspace.com/DanielArola

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yenhoi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reno, Nv Posts: 211 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rick Faye: www.mnkali.com Great panantukan series. __________________ strike!

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04-15-2006, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Panatukan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I like the dog brothers stick fighting dvds. Iv seen most of them but not the new drills dvd. But if I wanna fight in a cage I like the mma stuff more. any other tips on good dvds?

04-16-2006, 11:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Panatukan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds good but has anyone seen the fcs kali dvds?

04-17-2006, 10:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
Paco Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 171 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I train with Guro Pipo who is under Tuhon Ray and I have to say the FCS dvd's are really good. For starters, Guro Ray Cole put out the system's curriculum in 5 dvd's, so you can constantly check and refer to your material. (How many times have you been working out with your buddy and went: "HOW did that technique go? Shit, I forgot") See the website. I can tell you that watching Tuhon Ray in action is pretty wild, I saw him live when he was in Puerto Rico, and those seminars are available on DVD. If you are coming in from any other Filipino system, I still think that you can find plenty of stuff in all of the DVD's to work with. Depends on exactly what you are looking for, though. But I have seen videos/dvd's from other fma's and these rank way up there. Check out the website and tell me what you think.

04-17-2006, 06:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Panatukan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	thx for the info paco just what I wanted to heer. Im from kali-sikaran and Kambatan arnis (Modern arnis) Ill check it out. What dvds do you like the most? Im thinking of buying the curriculum 1-5, the panatukan 1-2, punyo mayo vol 1 and maybe the sarong stuff. Is the silat dvd any good?

04-18-2006, 10:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Paco Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 171 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I train FCS so the dvd's are a must for my library as reference tools. All of the dvd's are good. If you haven't seen Tuhon Ray in action be sure to get any of the seminar or fcs gathering dvd's. I have Guro Ray Cole's silat dvd (vol. 1) and I like it. It teaches the basic (3 out of a total 12, which I understand are forthcoming) djurus, followed by some combat applications and the sambuts (two-man drill). The bulk of the tape goes to dissecting the sambuts. In my opinion, it's teaching an empty hand flow outside of the hubud and panatukan/boxing format- not bad at all. I dunno if an advanced silat player would get the same out of it, though. You should try contacting Guro Ray Cole (I dunno if you can do it thru the website: www.fcskali.com) if you want more details. I also have Tuhon Ray's advance knife fighting dvd as well as Guro Rafy Pambuan's espada-daga dvd both are great as well. While all of the dvd's are full of different techniques, try to remember that FCS is a concept-based martial art- and what the dvd's are trying to show is ways that those concepts can be applied.

04-19-2006, 11:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sun_Helmet Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 222 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tuhon Ray Dionaldo is also shooting a new DVD for the Sayoc Fighting System, featuring Tuhon Felix Cortes as well. This should be out by end of summer or fall 2006. These will be stick oriented tactics. --Rafael-- Sayoc Kali

04-19-2006, 05:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Panatukan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cant wait for that one. I dont know mutch about the sayoc stick fighting, but the knife work is the best I ever seen... And I seen alot in my 10 year in fma. So if its half as good with stick Im happy. We need more of this stuff in sweden...

04-23-2006, 12:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
Sisco T. Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i'm with danjuandesiga on investing in guro marc's kali tudo. if you want the art part of panantukan(the sectors,sweeps,etc.) maybe halleck's or harley elmore's are more suited to you- awesome DVDs. if you want the art AND how to fight it/ spar it kali tudo is what you want to buy and learn from.

04-23-2006, 04:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
salami Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	get the inosanto video tapes, don't settle for watered down material

04-27-2006, 11:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
Panatukan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have the inosanto ,halleck and the harley elmore dvds all great !!!! But I dont think Im in to the kali-tudo stuff (I train mma) but I will buy the drill dvd with the dog brothers. I love the sayoc stuff and Im going to check out the fcs kali dvds. Any more tips guys ? Maybe some good silat stuff?

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