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Old 09-18-2006, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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many FMA people, i noticed, spend a lot of time teaching the student and not training them. what makes a fighter effective, is what he can do, not what he knows.

there's a lot of 400 pound couch potatos who "know" how the Clippers can win a game, but they are not very valuable to the clippers themself, are they. not saying they can't coach the clippers, but who will give them the job.

martial artists spend too much time with knowledge not enough time with skill. this is bad for the art, because it allows us to respect ideas more than skill. how many discussions have we battled because some people believe you need to "know" how to teach, more important than you "know" how to fight. i'm sorry, if a man cant fight, i would not study under him, i dont give a damn what he knows. if you will spend hundreds of dollars to follow a guy and you dont care about his ability, then you really dont want to fight.

this is why the tournament is so valuable to the martial artist. especially for FMA artists, because there is so small numbers of arnis people around that are willing to fight, the last thing we need is more FMA philosophizers. Philosphy and ideas mean nothing if you do not make them work. and skill is developed in training, not practice, and definitely not in learning. you can learn how to throw a punch but it is the guy who threw it thousands of times, full speed, full power, that will be successful in a fight. no matter how many different ways you learn to throw that punch.

so fma people, train your skill, stop taking all these damn seminars. the rest of the martial arts world is laughing at us because of our 9th degree masters who cant fight. and stop putting down tournaments like WEKAF, unless you are willing to go there and prove that you can do it better.
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I totally agree with you. You can learn allot from teaching and I think everyone should do it. But most will just stay there and teach and never continue to excel their ability to fight. I personally don't care for the WEKAF fighting. When my friends, students and I stick fight, we only use a fencing mask, cup, and mouthpiece. And on some occasions we don’t wear anything but a mouth guard. Kind of like the dog brothers, except there is no rules, time limits or anything. We even do mass attack scenarios all out.

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Nice post. I think this applies to all martial arts.
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I agree that everyone needs to train what they know so they will be able to use it when needed. I have no problems with seminars, however I also believe that there are far to many "seminar fighters" and "seminar instructors" out there teaching what they know as fact with out ever getting in the "ring". If you are running a professional school then you have to walk that fine line of being able to teach and train for reality while watching out for the safety of the students as well. The ideal thing is to have a orivate group of guys who all have the same goals as you...and that is to become better fighters by training to use what they already know.

All in all I agree.
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I agree that everyone needs to train what they know so they will be able to use it when needed. I have no problems with seminars, however I also believe that there are far to many "seminar fighters" and "seminar instructors" out there teaching what they know as fact with out ever getting in the "ring". If you are running a professional school then you have to walk that fine line of being able to teach and train for reality while watching out for the safety of the students as well. The ideal thing is to have a orivate group of guys who all have the same goals as you...and that is to become better fighters by training to use what they already know.

All in all I agree.
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