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Old 04-27-2008, 06:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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keep ur mouth shut. u dont like me quite answering my threads
Lilwizard, try and relax. He may not like you, but it's public, and he's not required to like you. You may or may not have noticed, but there are several of us here who don't like each other. That's just part of the forum experience.

Second, he's got a valid point. You've waffled pretty seriously as to what you want to do with your training, and some of your ideas have been waaaay out there. As I recall, you solicited information about how to train, and when several of us gave you some solid, sound, good advice, you ignored it completely and brushed us all off. You can't act surprised that your queries might now be met with some skepticism. Don't take it so personally. You sowed those seeds yourself.

Third, I told you why I personally didn't feel comfortable sharing weapons training ideas with you, and it's largely for the same reasons I already mentioned. I also, however, provided you with no less than 23 listings in your area for martial arts schools. The kind of training you're looking for is very, very easy to find in just about any martial arts magazine. Just look at the advertisements and pick something that looks like it's in line with what you want to do.

Fourth - and this is important - if you go through all this and still don't take anyone's advice? Well, you can pretty much expect to be written off by the whole forum as nothing more than a troll. You've asked for this kind of advice on other arts before, and you obviously haven't taken the first step toward actually doing anything with that advice, so if you blow us all off this time, you're really only showing us how little you value our time and input. So if Michael's treatment of your posts is not something you like, I'd seriously consider your approach here, because you're setting yourself up to receive similar treatment from virtually everyone else here too.
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Ok Whats A Troll. And Ur Right I Cant Make Up My Mind. I Want To Explore Different Things To See Which One I Like Best. I Wanted To Try Stickfighting. If Ur Not Gunna Help Ill Do It Myself. Ill Admit It. Im Probally Going Through A Faise Where I Cant Make Up My Mind On Which Ma I Want To Do. Just Remember. I Can Only Train In My Garage Untill This Summer And Want To Get Involved In Some Sort Of Ma Training. Im Sorry If I "bugged" U And Will Take Any Advice U Can Give Me. Ur The Expert. Im Only 14. So If U Have Any Stickfighting Tips I Will Gladly Take Them.....if U Don't Want To Give Weapon Advice Over The Web I Understand That Too! Im Sry. If U Don't Want Me On This Site Asken For Advice Just Say It And Ill Leave.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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A troll is someone who goes "trolling" for responses on a forum. It's a term taken from fishing. Trolling is when a fisherman casts out some bait and then drags it through the water behind a boat hoping for a bite. In internet terms, it's used to decribe someone who just posts nonsense or controversy so he can get people to "bite" and start arguments.

Much like people who get overly defensive and throw pity-party fits when confronted with facts about their posts.

Look, there's no need to get hyperactive and there's no reasons for your feelings to get hurt. I'll try and explain this in a gentler way, and in return I ask that you try not to take offense so easily, okay?

You said that you want to explore different things, right? Well, so far here, you've asked about three different arts, and you've been given advice on such aspects of fighting as boxing, wrestling, BJJ, MMA, and stickfighting. I remember a conversation with you in which someone suggested you go try wrestling. You blew them off and said that it would interfere with your boxing training at home. When people suggested ways around that, you got upset and said you were going to do it your way. That is not exploration. Exploring something means you go and give it a try. In martial arts, it often means making a commitment of several months before making up your mind. But that's not what you've done. You've instead decided to dismiss the advice given to you and get upset when people call you on it. The result is that people tend to feel as though they are wasting their time in giving you advice, and they stop taking you seriously.

Let me ask a few questions to get things moving in a more positive direction:
  • You said you couldn't train anywhere except your garage until summer. Why?
  • Do you have any training partners, or is this something you have to do all by yourself?
  • Can you afford to actually sign up for lessons someplace, or are paid classes out of the question?
  • How serious are you about wanting to train in something?
  • What kind of equipment do you have that you can work on?
  • Who do you know that's better than you? Can that person act as your coach if people here give you some input?
  • Do you have any idea what types of arts or which particular instructors you like? Could you pick out the differences between say, Dan Inosanto and Paul Vunak? What about between, say, Royce Gracie and Jean-Jacques Machado?
  • Finally, do you have a bike or some other form of transportation that you can use to get to lessons if they're close to home?

Do me a favor and answer those questions. I'll take a look at your answers and see if I can offer some good guidance on how to get going on a program that's going to work for you. I understand that you're young, and that's no big deal. But you have to understand that no one here wants to waste their time and effort on someone who's going to ignore their advice. So in exchange for the help I'm offering, you need to get a little less sensitive when people like Michael rightly tell you your previous posts have cast a negative light your direction. Fair?
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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-parents both work nights and in the summer there shifts change
-no training partners
-paid classes are afordable
-i am 100 percent dedicated to my training and thats y i take my conditioning training so hard i want to train in stickfighting
-i have a wood sword,heavybad, speed bad, double end bag, weight bench, mirror for shadow
-i don't no any1 that trains in my style
-i like nice instructors
-yes but there are none close to home.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Okay. I'm going to assume by your answers that you're not going to lose your temper anymore, and that this is not me wasting my time giving you advice. Here's what I suggest:

If you want to train in stickfighting of any sort, you need a partner. That's your first homework assignment. Get two or three people who want to learn with you. I say two or three because if you only have one, you're going to get stood up a lot and you'll have no one to train with. So talk to your friends and form a group.

Second, realize that what you're doing is dangerous, and it will - not can, but WILL - hurt you at some point. You're going to get busted knuckles, bruises, busted open elbows and knees, and maybe even worse. You're talking about engaging in a dangerous activity, and you're hoping to do it without any supervision at all. That is a recipe for a lot of emergency room visits, so talk to your parents and make sure that it's okay with them. If it's not, maybe they'll help you figure out a way to get to and from a class.

Third, you need to do some research on the kind of stickfighting you want to learn. There are literally thousands of different styles and methods out there, and each has a different flavor. Being as you're young and inexperienced, I'd recommend looking into something like Modern Arnis. Remy Presas developed it to fit well into the familiar structures of more traditional martial arts, and as a result, it spread fast. That means two things for you: One, it'll be easier to find. Two, it'll make more sense to you than some ofthe less structured systems might.

Fourth, you need to become a better researcher. You need to learn how to dig around on the internet and find information. The notion that there's no one in your area that does what you want to do is inconceivable. I've lived in some of the most podunk towns in America. I've lived in 23 states and probably 40 different cities and towns, and in every one of them I can remember, there was someone who did the same stuff as I do. So the fact is that there are people in your area, and no one is better positioned to find them than you are. You just need to direct that desire to learn at finding a teacher. You may not want to hear it, but this is not something you can do all by yourself.

I'll add more to this later, but in the mean time, prove you're serious by getting a friend or two to commit to training with you, and then find a few schools who teach some form of stick. They're out there, I promise. Just get creative and don't give up.
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You really do go above and beyond Mike...
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Just trying to help.

But thank you both all the same.
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Listen I Appreciate U Helping And Taking The Time With Me More Than Ull Ever No. I Talked To All My Friends And Some Other Kids At School Today And Everybody Either Laughed Or Didnt Know What Stick Fighting Is. So Unfortanuly Im Gunna Have To Train Myself Without A Partner. Everybody At My School Is Morre Intrested School Sports. Im Gunna Work On It At Home To Get In Good Shape And To Know How To Defend Myself. Im Sry. Im Just Gunna Keep It Simply And Train Hard! So If U Got Any Tips Ill Gladly Appreciate It. If Not, Well Ill Use What U Already Gave Me And Teach Myself. Either Way Thanks. At This Point Im Doing It Cause I Love To Train. Have A Good Day
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Get a stick or large dowel of hardwood.

Get an old tire and hang it from the rafter in your garage.

Hit the tire with your stick.

Swing or spin the tire and hit it with your stick.

Set up other THINGS near the tire to HIT with your stick.

Hit things with your stick.

Try not to break your stick.

Go hit...
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tire training is very important...you should also strike the target with your max. torque....i know for a fact that strikeing without torquing the body does not yeild as much power as when you torque...try to practice your striking as near perfect as you can muster(depending on your systems style of striking)..try not to break your stick at first..but in our method we do want to break our sticks....just my two cents...hope this helps.
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Get a stick or large dowel of hardwood.

Get an old tire and hang it from the rafter in your garage.

Hit the tire with your stick.

Swing or spin the tire and hit it with your stick.

Set up other THINGS near the tire to HIT with your stick.

Hit things with your stick.

Try not to break your stick.

Go hit...
the tyre i have got that i use for my sledgehammer training is to big and heavy to hang , but i hang my heavy sandbag but i imagine hitting a tyre you get more of a bounce, what i trying to say should i try and get a smaller tyre or is it ok to keep using my sandbag.
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