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Old 05-30-2008, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hello everybody,

i am going to start a 8 week class which will teach eskrima and boxing together. this is not boxing with a stick, and is not eskrima with empty hands. i am teaching the real art of fighting with a stick, and fighting with the fist. i am not even offering machete disguised as stick fighting.

even a beginner can train with me, and experienced fighters can learn. no instructors please. you have never seen eskrima done this way, and i promise your fighting will improved 200% when you finish this course.

the class will begin in july and finish at the end of august. we train thursday nights 8 - 9 p.m., and sunday 9 - 10 a.m. the cost for the 8 weeks is $300. thank you
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hello everybody,

i am going to start a 8 week class which will teach eskrima and boxing together. this is not boxing with a stick, and is not eskrima with empty hands. i am teaching the real art of fighting with a stick, and fighting with the fist. i am not even offering machete disguised as stick fighting.

even a beginner can train with me, and experienced fighters can learn. no instructors please. you have never seen eskrima done this way, and i promise your fighting will improved 200% when you finish this course.

the class will begin in july and finish at the end of august. we train thursday nights 8 - 9 p.m., and sunday 9 - 10 a.m. the cost for the 8 weeks is $300. thank you
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are these jokes?
Perhaps skeptics?

Take no offence, eh?

I wish you the best and thanks for sharing.
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not offended, just suprised. see my belief is, if you dont believe what you have to teach will not change anybodys way of fighting, and you cant guarantee that your style will, you shouldnt call yourself a teacher.

why is this so funny, i have no idea. maybe only the guys who sell video or write articles on the magazine and interet should be confident in what he has? no, my art is real, and theres no need for fancy writing or show-off videos on youtube to convince people.

but this, is the real deal of the martial arts: every man feels his art is superior to the others, this is why he does it. the question of the art is, "if your art is really superior?"

the answer is, find out. some people will, some people never will, they will hide behind self-written reputations, friends who spread your reputations, books, video, computers, and other comfortable places like seminar.

back to my original statement. i guarantee that if you train in this class, your fighting will improved 100%. how many teachers with a school, will say this.
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Hi,

I agree, they may be skeptics and thats why they posted their sentiments. I also agree with you that a person would teach his art because he thinks that it is effective and worth learning.

Regarding the superiority of one art over another, i believe differently. I have seen martial arts come and go (meaning gain popularity and loose popularity) and the reason why they become popular is because a fighter in that art has shown the effectiveness of his techniques, again this does not last long as other arts will tend to prove themselves better. Some for bragging rights, others because of pride, and still there will be others who would just stay in the sidelines and keep silent. My point? I believe that all martial arts in the end, given all the trainings and equal exposures to fights and sparring sessions, are all equal. What makes the difference is the fighter, his resolve to keep practicing his art and his determination to survive the situation presented to him/her.

In the end, Its not the superiority of the art that makes a fighter end on top. It is the superiority of the Artist.

Thats my two cents worth.

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not offended, just suprised. see my belief is, if you dont believe what you have to teach will not change anybodys way of fighting, and you cant guarantee that your style will, you shouldnt call yourself a teacher.

why is this so funny, i have no idea. maybe only the guys who sell video or write articles on the magazine and interet should be confident in what he has? no, my art is real, and theres no need for fancy writing or show-off videos on youtube to convince people.

but this, is the real deal of the martial arts: every man feels his art is superior to the others, this is why he does it. the question of the art is, "if your art is really superior?"

the answer is, find out. some people will, some people never will, they will hide behind self-written reputations, friends who spread your reputations, books, video, computers, and other comfortable places like seminar.

back to my original statement. i guarantee that if you train in this class, your fighting will improved 100%. how many teachers with a school, will say this.
you said 200% before, have you halved the price?
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200% for everyone else, only 100% for you

just kidding.

no, you guys are doing what your suppose to do, believe what i am saying is not true. this is what the martial artist does, belives that his art is superiour, and the next guys fighting skill is not as good. and that is what the art is also about, two people decide who is best. without this there is no art, just a bunch of theory. but the next level up from belief, is to get out and prove if you are right, or find out if you are wrong.

in the philippines you challenge everyone in your community by putting up your sign. if you do that, you better be willing to accept the challenge whether it is in word (like here on the computer) or in person. this is what keeps a filipino art pure. but again, if you advertise that you are teaching either on video or in seminar, or in a school, better have enough bucks in your bank because your actions wrote the check. i dont sell video, but i teach people how to fight, and my people fight. so the only argument here, can i fight? and can i teach people to fight?

this is should be the end of the discussion.

but about the idea that there is no superior art, only superior fighters? that is only a saying, and is not true at all. some styles are better thought out for fighting, some are mostly theories that dont work. some teach making better fighters, some only teach how to make stronger fighters (there is a big difference). some styles are only good at demonstration of technique, some are good in real life. there are, of course, superior men out here, that will be effective on the street no matter what they do, but a good strategy (excuse me, style) will make him more effective (excuse met, better).

so there are superior technique just like there is superior fighters.

back to my point. this class will teach you to become better in sparring and kicking somebody behind, with or without a stick, and you dont need demonstration to prove it. you will not learn to play pitty pat with the hends, you can learn this from youtube masters, in my place, you will learn how to hit, how to stop a hit, how to avoid a hit, and how to hit the opponent in a way, he cannot stop it.
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just kidding.

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oh, and thank you for the prayer.


Good to keep your sense of humor about the virtual skeptics! You made me laugh. Thanks for that!

Don't mind Mr. Wright (Michael). He fancies himself a decent boxer.

It is no surprise.

I hope you reach and teach many.

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I'm just teasing, I don't mean any harm. Good not to take me too seriously or personally, in the same way I didn’t take personally your rather scathing little attack, not so subtely aimed in my direction.

When you promote what you do on the forum, you’re more than likely going to get some response and feedback, that’s kind of how this works. You have made some pretty bold statements in your post, and when you have been around a little while (like Myself and Fire Cobra more so) you do tend to be a little sceptical.

I guess my question is this: If you hold the supreme belief in your art, as you have so adamantly expressed in your posts, why don’t you want other instructors in the room? I’m an Instructor in Filipino Martial Arts and also train in Boxing, and I’d love to improve my game 100% or 200% in 8 weeks, so why wouldn't you want me to attend?

its not a computer challenge, I'm just curious
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i do not teach other instructors because this is "propritarily" information, which means, this information is my trade secrets. last thing i will do is show it to people who cheapen it by posting brag videos on the internet, and show it anyone for $75. even the smallest thing i offer, can be a big thing if a lot of people can see the skin of it, if you know what i mean.

in every seminar or class i do for outsiders--outsiders meant that they are not joining my school and make a commitment--i give a speech, which stops the technique collectors from doing what i dislike. once i give this speech, we have an agreement, and if they break the agreement, i will embarass them and hurt there feelings.

one restaurant will not show the owner of another restaurant his favorite recipes. i am the same way, i can train a student to be a certain way, but for many teachers you cannot change them, like old men, they never bend.

at the same time i do not hide from other teachers and styles. skeptics, are at every tournament we go to. some enter, some stay in the stands and talk there talk. i am only concern with the ones on the floor. here on the internet, nothing really hurts my feelings. me, its actually a good thing when it happens to me or any other martial artists, because its what we train for, either on the floor or in a conversation. believe me i respect that more than somebody who just says i am a good martial artist because he likes me or likes what he read.

the saying is, a fighters reputation is best when it comes from his opponents, not his friends.

but if you lived here i might allow you to attend, but we would have to have understandings first. my school is the first FMA-only school in town (i did not teach my kung fu style until last year) in 1999, and we had many, many looky lous, who wanted demonstration, certificates in short time, etc. 15 years ago it was pride for me to teach an instructor, now i keep them away.
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