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Something is confusing me, yaw yan and muay thai, whats the difference ? anyone know a good site that explains yaw yan ?

doblete72

The more obvious difference is that Muay Thai has a relatively limited amount of techniques compared to Yaw Yan, which is derived from the term Sayaw ng Kamatayan, literally translated as the "Dance of Death". There are a great variety of kicks in the Yaw Yan arsenal, however similar the arts may appear, the similarities are merely superficial. I am no expert on Yaw-Yan so I can only relate what little I have heard from one of my teachers from the Philippines. Yaw-Yan was created in the Philippines, and a few champions from Thailand came to openly challenge FMA practitioners, and they were soundly defeated by Yaw-Yan practitioners. They also travel to Muay Thai events regularly to prove their arts effectiveness. You can search for websites that relate to Yaw-Yan for more info by going to Google.com.

I hope this helps you out.

cocoy

I was briefly exposed to Yaw Yan ten years ago while I was in college. Although the techniques are similar there are some distinct differences. Yaw yan practitioners often pivot on the heel. There are some strange kicks not found in muay thai: scorpion kick, scorpion chop and the yaw yan back kick, a rear leg back kick that is done without spinning. they train on a 4x4 wrapped with twine and covered by rubber cement. Try this website

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/M...17/yawyan.html

the art also has hand strikes based on stick movements, bolo punches. I think there might be a school in Virginia but otherwise the philippines is the only place you can see it.

William

I just came across this bit about Yaw-Yan on the martial arts resource page. I remembered this thread so I copied it over.

William

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Yaw-Yan
Napoleon (Nap) A. Fernandez

Founded in 1972, Yaw-Yan's movements slightly resemble that of
Thai-Boxing and Korea's Taekwondo but the origin is Filipino. The word
Yaw-Yan was derived from the two last syllables of "Sayaw ng Kamatayan"
meaning "Dance of Death".

Contrary to most popular belief, Yaw-Yan is not purely a full-contact
no-holds barred sport martial arts. It is a complete martial training
with body-mind coordination and test of enduring indomitable spirit.
More than just physical training, it also involves the mental
disciplines of focus, concentration, alertness, flexibility, stamina,
speed and continuity. Students train for real confrontation and actual
fights -- on or off the ring. Advanced Disciples have to go through a
rigorous ritual of practice and discipline consisting of actual
full-contact sparring, bag hitting, and flexibility exercises. The
Elbows (siko), knees (tuhod) and shin (lulod) are utilized in much the
same way as in Muay Thai. Yaw-Yan practitioners learn 40 basic kicks,
advanced disciples have to be able to execute and apply complexed
advanced kicks requiring great dexterity, flexibility and mastery. Most
of these advanced kicks are trick kicks which always caught unsuspecting
opponents by surprise.

Yaw-Yan Back-kick, reversed Yaw-Yan roundhouse stomp thrust and the
famous scorpion kicks were some of these kicks popularized in Filipino
motion pictures by action stars Boy Fernandez and Rey Malonzo, both
Yaw-Yan experts. Yaw-Yan practitioners are also adept with Philippine
bladed weaponries as balisong and bolo. Bladed weapons are mere
extensions of the hands. The forearm strikes, elbows, punches,
dominating palms, and hand movements are empty-hand translations of the
bladed weapons. There are 12 bolo punches which were patterned from
Arnis, the Philippines' very own armed art. These punches have continous
fluid striking motion quite similar to western boxing but incorporating
the art of Arnis. Grappling, ground-fighting, and knife-fighting had
always been a part of the philippines' martial art and are always
incorporated during the Yaw-Yan practice period. Yaw-Yan is a
transformation of ancient Filipino Martial Arts and a Modern Competition
Sport with high emphasis on practicality and actual confrontation.

The mountain-storm kick had been debatable as who originated it, where
and when. Mountain Storm kick seemed similar to Thai roundhouse kick
except that the kicking leg was drawn up and swung-through in full force
swiftly with a continous downward cutting motion of the shin as you
torque your hips in, instead of just plain straight through burst.

http://www.yawyan.com

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