The Ultimate in Martial Arts

crazyjoe380 · 12-09-2002, 01:36 PM

when someone else knows something too? or is it an art that is best when your opponent knows nothing?

just asking cause from what i have seen it's not on the map on a fighting stand point of view.. is it underground? used in war? break it down..

cocoy · 12-10-2002, 05:52 PM

Used in war, usually with a knife or other weapon so the game changes. That's why it doesn't look like NHB.

ryanhall · 12-10-2002, 06:04 PM

ufc, pride, street...
the first two have very little to do with the second. nothing purely physical holds its own in the street for long imo.

yenhoi · 12-10-2002, 07:39 PM

Silat is a bunch of grappling arts concerned with breaking spines. Of course if you trained it hard and vs resisting people, it would do fine.

stick77 · 12-17-2002, 11:31 PM

It's not the art, its how you train.

The "art" is supposed to become individualized for the artist or fighter. Even with the weapons, alot of "weapon" arts don't train realistically enough.

If a silat MAist or FMAist were given 6 months to train for a UFC or pride, I'm pretty sure they would train against other people that have fought in those types of tournaments, and that person would learn really fast in his sparring sessions with real fighters, what would work and what wouldn't.

Technique application vs technique perfection. What is more perfect than a technique that can be applied during real time?

Just my opinion.

yenhoi · 12-18-2002, 01:42 AM

Crazyjoe:

dunno if you have it, but here is a link for you:

www.dogbrothers.com

pretty much UFC with blunt weapons allowed.

K Williams · 12-18-2002, 02:21 PM

Get this video...

http://dogbrothers.com/Merchant2/mer...ode=DBSERIES01

12-09-2002, 01:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
crazyjoe380 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,369 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can Silat or Muslim arts hold their own in UFC pride or Street? when someone else knows something too? or is it an art that is best when your opponent knows nothing? just asking cause from what i have seen it's not on the map on a fighting stand point of view.. is it underground? used in war? break it down.. __________________

12-10-2002, 06:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
ryanhall Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,247 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ufc, pride, street... the first two have very little to do with the second. nothing purely physical holds its own in the street for long imo. __________________ "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"

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yenhoi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reno, Nv Posts: 211 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Silat is a bunch of grappling arts concerned with breaking spines. Of course if you trained it hard and vs resisting people, it would do fine. __________________ strike!

12-18-2002, 01:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
yenhoi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reno, Nv Posts: 211 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Crazyjoe: dunno if you have it, but here is a link for you: www.dogbrothers.com pretty much UFC with blunt weapons allowed. __________________ strike!

12-18-2002, 02:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
K Williams Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: USA Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dog Brothers Video #5 Get this video... http://dogbrothers.com/Merchant2/mer...ode=DBSERIES01 __________________ K. Williams

12-10-2002, 05:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
cocoy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 48 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Used in war, usually with a knife or other weapon so the game changes. That's why it doesn't look like NHB.

12-17-2002, 11:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
stick77 Novice Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's not the art, its how you train. The "art" is supposed to become individualized for the artist or fighter. Even with the weapons, alot of "weapon" arts don't train realistically enough. If a silat MAist or FMAist were given 6 months to train for a UFC or pride, I'm pretty sure they would train against other people that have fought in those types of tournaments, and that person would learn really fast in his sparring sessions with real fighters, what would work and what wouldn't. Technique application vs technique perfection. What is more perfect than a technique that can be applied during real time? Just my opinion.

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