Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminars

Airyu · 08-12-2003, 08:33 AM

Hello Everyone!
Another great upcoming training event(s)!!

Gumagalang
Guro Steve L.
www.Bujinkandojo.net

Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminars with Ray Floro

Raymond Floro, a direct student of Tatang Ilustrisimo, Master Tony Diego, and Master Romeo Macapagal, will be teaching Kalis Ilustrisimo for his first seminar series in the USA. There are only two opportunities to meet and train with Master Floro in this series:

Manchester, NH

When: September 13th (11:00 – 3:30) and September 14th (10:00am – 3:00pm)
Where: Bujinkan Dojo
250 Commercial st, Suite 2008
Manchester, NH, 03101
Cost: Single day = $90.0, Both days = $150.0
Contact Steven Lefebvre at Airyu@hotmail.com, or call (603) 668-3181

San Jose California

When: September 20th and 21st
Anyone who wishes to attend this seminar must be paid by September 1st. Please contact Michael Jen at mjen@pacbell.net or call (408) 531 - 1001

Airyu · 08-14-2003, 05:38 AM

Hello,

I have been told from several sources that Master Diego, currently is not interested in traveling outside of the Philippines and Master Macapagal can't travel, for whatever reason.

Eskrimador - "never judge a book by it's cover" Ray Floro, is actually in very good shape and is a highly skilled practitioner of Kalis Ilustrisimo. We hit it off when explaining the two systems we both practice to each other. Which lead to our upcoming seminar. Have you had the opportunity to train with Master Diego, or Macapagal?

Gumagalang
Guro Steve L.

www.Bujinkandojo.net
www.Sayoc.com

eskrimador · 08-14-2003, 09:06 AM

i will be training with master diego next year..LOOKING FORWARD to the 4weeks training ill do with him...

i would not in anyway what so ever train with floro i dont like his attitude...
also he is down the line a bit

quality would NOT BE AS GOOD AS TRAINING WITH MANOY TONY, NOY ROMEO, NOY TOPHER, NOY YULI........
EVEN FLORO WOULD ADMIT THAT.....!!!!!!!!

Airyu · 08-14-2003, 10:43 AM

Hello Eskrimador,

Ray, only speaks with the highest respect of his teachers, and has already offered to introduce me to them if/when I can get out to the Philippines.

Not every teacher is for every student. Ray and I hit it off and get along very well. Maybe you did catch him on a bad day??

Gumagalang
Guro Steve L.

eskrimador · 08-14-2003, 10:46 AM

i think i did..

has he altered his teaching or is he teaching the kalis system as taught to him?

good luck with the sem

are you going to go to the philippines for training...

Airyu · 08-14-2003, 11:00 AM

Hello Again,

1) I don't know how what he teaches compares to his teachers. I do know that everyone tends to develop their own way within a style though so I wouldn't be surprised if things were different.

2) I would like to get over there some time in the future! My current schedule of life, prevents this but time changes everything.

All the best

Guro Steve L.

Dale Hunt · 08-15-2003, 10:45 AM

If you doubt Rays ability, why not ask Tony Diego himself, you will hear nothing but praise.

I'm a student of Raymond Floro and I have over 20 years experience in martial arts, yet am I to find someone as approachable, knowledgable, and skilled as Raymond. Tony may be better, I haven't had the pleasure to train with him but I can tell you that Raymond sure as hell knows his stuff. As for not giving a @@@@, many of us living in Australia will give that impression, we seem very laid back, but don't judge a book by the cover, we prefer to let our actions do the talking

William · 08-16-2003, 09:18 AM

I sense......a presence.....................

one I have not felt since................

.......The great "Kali" debate.

William

Joe Talmadge · 08-16-2003, 05:10 PM

Sorry to interrupt the fun ... Ray, for your San Jose seminars, are you planning to teach mostly stick, or mostly knife, or 50/50, or ??? Thanks!

Joe

rayfloro · 08-16-2003, 09:20 PM

Hi Joe,

I've been requested by Michael Jen to do a completely knife seminar.

I will be showing you my bread and butter moves. The ones I personally use when I spar. The moves that I rely on in street encounters, and the ones my students have used in actual street fights.

I'll give you several options as well, as everybody moves in different ways.

You'll find what I teach is very simple, but very SUBTLE, which is the trademark of the Ilustrisimo system.

It will be the same curriculum that I use to teach the Australian Military, US Special Forces and the Korean Special Forces.

If you have more specific questions, I would be more than happy to answer them.

Raymond

Dale Hunt · 08-16-2003, 09:43 PM

The beauty of the Ilustrisimo system and Rays knife work is the simplicity and adaptability. I train with Ray but run my own school teaching a completely different art. However I have found that Illustrisimo is a great "piggy back" system, in the way that I can build his techniques into my own classes without any conflict. I also findthat whether its a knife, a stick, a mobile phone or a pool cue, I can use the same techniques and they work for whatever I have in my hand at the time.

Joe Talmadge · 08-16-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rayfloro
Hi Joe,

I've been requested by Michael Jen to do a completely knife seminar.

Sold! I enjoy stick work but it's not my focus right now. Definitely up for a knife seminar.

Joe

rayfloro · 08-16-2003, 10:21 PM

That's great Joe,

Looking forward to meeting you...!!!!!!!!!!!

terry · 08-17-2003, 01:21 PM

Eskrimadore seems rather hypocritical when he lectures others about respect and humility.

He expresses a strange mixture of exaggerated nationalist bravado mixed with crass rudeness and outright psychological instability. We banned a couple of nutbuckets like this a few months ago. Time to take out the trash again.

Terry

ryanhall · 08-17-2003, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Time to take out the trash again

I love it when that happens

.

08-12-2003, 08:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
Airyu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 230	Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminars Hello Everyone! Another great upcoming training event(s)!! Gumagalang Guro Steve L. www.Bujinkandojo.net Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminars with Ray Floro Raymond Floro, a direct student of Tatang Ilustrisimo, Master Tony Diego, and Master Romeo Macapagal, will be teaching Kalis Ilustrisimo for his first seminar series in the USA. There are only two opportunities to meet and train with Master Floro in this series: Manchester, NH When: September 13th (11:00 – 3:30) and September 14th (10:00am – 3:00pm) Where: Bujinkan Dojo 250 Commercial st, Suite 2008 Manchester, NH, 03101 Cost: Single day = $90.0, Both days = $150.0 Contact Steven Lefebvre at Airyu@hotmail.com, or call (603) 668-3181 San Jose California When: September 20th and 21st Anyone who wishes to attend this seminar must be paid by September 1st. Please contact Michael Jen at mjen@pacbell.net or call (408) 531 - 1001

08-15-2003, 10:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dale Hunt Novice Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2	Ray Floro If you doubt Rays ability, why not ask Tony Diego himself, you will hear nothing but praise. I'm a student of Raymond Floro and I have over 20 years experience in martial arts, yet am I to find someone as approachable, knowledgable, and skilled as Raymond. Tony may be better, I haven't had the pleasure to train with him but I can tell you that Raymond sure as hell knows his stuff. As for not giving a @@@@, many of us living in Australia will give that impression, we seem very laid back, but don't judge a book by the cover, we prefer to let our actions do the talking

08-16-2003, 09:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
William Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: R.I. Posts: 560	I sense......a presence..................... one I have not felt since................ .......The great "Kali" debate. William __________________ New England Pekiti-Tirsia Pitbulls Mongrel Combative Arts www.mongrelcombativearts.com All you need is love........and a sharp blade.....a hardwood flat stick......Oh, oh, oh and a Paraordinance lda 14.45 loaded with 230 grain hydra shocks,ranger SXT's or golden sabres

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08-14-2003, 05:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Airyu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 230	Hello, I have been told from several sources that Master Diego, currently is not interested in traveling outside of the Philippines and Master Macapagal can't travel, for whatever reason. Eskrimador - "never judge a book by it's cover" Ray Floro, is actually in very good shape and is a highly skilled practitioner of Kalis Ilustrisimo. We hit it off when explaining the two systems we both practice to each other. Which lead to our upcoming seminar. Have you had the opportunity to train with Master Diego, or Macapagal? Gumagalang Guro Steve L. www.Bujinkandojo.net www.Sayoc.com

08-14-2003, 09:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
eskrimador Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Quezon city Posts: 14	i will be training with master diego next year..LOOKING FORWARD to the 4weeks training ill do with him... i would not in anyway what so ever train with floro i dont like his attitude... also he is down the line a bit quality would NOT BE AS GOOD AS TRAINING WITH MANOY TONY, NOY ROMEO, NOY TOPHER, NOY YULI........ EVEN FLORO WOULD ADMIT THAT.....!!!!!!!!

08-14-2003, 10:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Airyu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 230	Hello Eskrimador, Ray, only speaks with the highest respect of his teachers, and has already offered to introduce me to them if/when I can get out to the Philippines. Not every teacher is for every student. Ray and I hit it off and get along very well. Maybe you did catch him on a bad day?? Gumagalang Guro Steve L.

08-14-2003, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
eskrimador Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Quezon city Posts: 14	i think i did.. has he altered his teaching or is he teaching the kalis system as taught to him? good luck with the sem are you going to go to the philippines for training...

08-14-2003, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
Airyu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 230	Hello Again, 1) I don't know how what he teaches compares to his teachers. I do know that everyone tends to develop their own way within a style though so I wouldn't be surprised if things were different. 2) I would like to get over there some time in the future! My current schedule of life, prevents this but time changes everything. All the best Guro Steve L.

08-16-2003, 05:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Joe Talmadge Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 19	Sorry to interrupt the fun ... Ray, for your San Jose seminars, are you planning to teach mostly stick, or mostly knife, or 50/50, or ??? Thanks! Joe

08-16-2003, 09:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
rayfloro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney,Australia Posts: 69	Hi Joe, I've been requested by Michael Jen to do a completely knife seminar. I will be showing you my bread and butter moves. The ones I personally use when I spar. The moves that I rely on in street encounters, and the ones my students have used in actual street fights. I'll give you several options as well, as everybody moves in different ways. You'll find what I teach is very simple, but very SUBTLE, which is the trademark of the Ilustrisimo system. It will be the same curriculum that I use to teach the Australian Military, US Special Forces and the Korean Special Forces. If you have more specific questions, I would be more than happy to answer them. Raymond

08-16-2003, 09:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dale Hunt Novice Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2	The beauty of the Ilustrisimo system and Rays knife work is the simplicity and adaptability. I train with Ray but run my own school teaching a completely different art. However I have found that Illustrisimo is a great "piggy back" system, in the way that I can build his techniques into my own classes without any conflict. I also findthat whether its a knife, a stick, a mobile phone or a pool cue, I can use the same techniques and they work for whatever I have in my hand at the time.

08-16-2003, 10:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
rayfloro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney,Australia Posts: 69	That's great Joe, Looking forward to meeting you...!!!!!!!!!!!

08-17-2003, 01:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
terry Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacifica, CA USA Posts: 571	Eskrimadore seems rather hypocritical when he lectures others about respect and humility. He expresses a strange mixture of exaggerated nationalist bravado mixed with crass rudeness and outright psychological instability. We banned a couple of nutbuckets like this a few months ago. Time to take out the trash again. Terry

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