Strider

Detailed info on escrima please. Advantages over other martial arts, such as grappling, JKD, MT?

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swan104

Sticks, swords and knives!

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Batman

think of the cutting goodness. and it increases co ordination - helpful to all arts

akja

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Kali

Kali, Escrima, and Arnis are the terms for the fighting arts of the Philippines.Kali is the mother art of the modern Filipino Martial Arts. When Filipino society was under Spanish colonial control, all martial arts were banned. Elements of Kali were hidden in folk plays and native dance. Under Spanish influence, the native art became known as eskrima, estocada, arnis de mano or arnis. Escrima and Arnis are designed to work with sticks, and Kali is a blade art. A common feature of all these arts is their use of geometry. In strikes/defenses and movement, lines and angles are very important. The independent use of the hands, or hands and feet, to do two different things at the same time, is a high-level skill sought after a fair amount of experience. Filipino martial arts allow the use of the elbow and knee, as well as low kicking and punching in close-range fighting. Head butting is allowed, along with grappling techniques carried out from either a standing position or from the ground and including strips, takedowns, and throws. Other moves include chokeholds and various locks on the hands, elbows, shoulders, ankles, and knees.

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Serrada

Advantages of Filipino Martial Arts (Eskrima):
1. They are generally superior to other MA in weapons training.
2. They are used throughout the Filipinas, to this day, to protect land and self.
3. The weapon training evolves into empty hand. This weapon training rapidly teaches quick reactions from getting hit b/c if you don’t block or deflect in training you get hit with a baston (stick).
4. Most employ grappling, elbow, knee, kicks and punches as part of their arsenal.
5. They have sensitivity training that teaches you to flow with your opponent.
6. A FMA has no problem going to the ground, but will quickly get back on to there feet for multiple attackers. This is achieved by learning locks, strikes and breaks. Reversals to the locks and breaks and then reversals to the reversals.
7. They break the body up into zones. Upper, middle, lower and left and right for each zone. The reason is if a kris, stick, knife or punch come into one of the zones an eskrimador fills the zone with a block or deflection. That way you don’t have to learn 100 techniques just ways to fill zones. Of course if it’s empty hand vs. knife minor adjustments are made, but in essence it the same counter as the stick vs. stick, stick vs. empty hand etc.

kh_s

Will that co-ordination you improved in training also help a bit with the daily sports you play with your friends ? like hockey, football, etc. ?

Serrada

Yes, same with other martial arts. I know professional football teams have studied Judo and kung fu to help with body mechanic and motion.

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aseepish

Oh boy, here we go again!

*braces himself*

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Serrada

I agree.

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Serrada

I agree that Kali is the mother art, then after spanish influce Aris de mono and Eskrima came hence the names

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sercuerdas

there was no one mother art from which all others were spawn. lets stop letting peoples marketing create such nonsense.

kruzada

I agree with Serrada. The FMA have evolved over the centuries, but being that we have no written records to verify any specific delineation or "root" art, all we have to go by is what has been passed down through oral tradition.

The multitude of interpretations of the origins of the FMA that are being spread like wildfire today vary so wildly that I sometimes think people are just fabricating over-simplified connections that sound probable enough to be believed.

We should all get over ourselves and get on with our lives and our training. The fact is there are so many different names for the FMA regionally that perhaps people should be more concerned with what the art they practice is referred to in the particular region of the Philippines where the founder's family hails from or the region that the art was first promoted in. Since there are over 169 languages in the Philippines and each one of these 169 languages are comprised of several dialects this could be a daunting task, and Filipinos like to keep things simple hence the three general terms used today to refer to the weapon-based arts of the Philippines; Arnis, Eskrima, and Kali.

There is no point debating such an inane topic that can never be settled, because as I have pointed out there is no hard evidence either way. That being the case, I admit to only being able to trace the origins of any of the FMA styles that I practice perhaps five generations at the most, and thats it. For me that is enough of a "verifiable" history to be proud of, I don't find any need to trace my systems roots back to the year 300 A.D.

Just M.H.O.

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kruzada

I think I must have confused Secuerda's post with Serrada's.

I agree with Secuerda that there is no "one" mother art to the FMA.

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