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Old 01-06-2004, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Question about weight lifting. Please help I'm New!

Hi I'm new to this weight lifting thing and martial arts. Right now my main goal is to gain some muscle and basically get stronger. I'm only 14 by the way. I would just like to know which one of these is better.

Now lets say I am going to be doing 3 different excersisez for 3 different muscle groups on three different machines. Lets say the muscle groups are Biceps/Chest/Back

Would it be better to do set1 on the first machine ....rest for 45 seconds....do set 2....rest again and do set 3...and then move on to the next machine.....OR would it be better to do set 1 on each machine.....and then do set 2 on all the machines and then do set 3 on all the machines

This may sound sort of confusing so I'm sorry if you do not understand me. Also if you can give me any pointers on working out and especially stuff on cardio and this PROTEIN stuff that would be very helpful. I am about 5'10" and weigh 132 pounds. I'm pretty skinny for my age**I THINK** and I would like to burn body fat on the treadmill but NOT BURN MUSCLE so if you have any pointers on this kind of stuff it would be VERY HELPFUL to me. Thanks alot guys


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Ok, as to lifting, keep to lighter weights (10-15 reps per set, 4 sets). The last couple reps should be challenging but not impossible. You are still growing and your bones and muscles are not ready to train heavy. For Protein, take in 120-140 grams per day. Try to space it out a little. 20-40 grams per sitting, and drink LOTS of water. Shoot for a gallon a day of water. Not gatorade, or soda, or beer, water. Extra protein intake is hard on the kidneys and the water will prevent any problems there.

As to the treadmill, just keep your pulse between 150-170 beats per minute and you will be fine. Try to go for 30+ minutes. Its more important to go for a long time, than to go fast.
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14 is a little young for lifting weights, kid. You're going to naturally gain weight as you get older depending on your genetics and you might gain a few inches in height too. Check with your doctor and get a physical before you start training.

Try this routine and tell me what you think:

stretch/warm-up

Push ups - Do as many as you can. Rest for 1 minute. Next set - Try exploding with your arms off the ground and into the air, clap in the air and reset your hands for the down part. If you can't do the clap, just try and launch yourself as high as possible.

Chinups - Get to a chin up bar in your gymnasium. Do as many chinups as you can with your palms outward. Rest for 1 minute. Do as many as you can with palms toward you.

Jump Rope - Jump rope at a fast pace for 2 minutes. Rest for 30 seconds. Jump rope again at a faster pace for 2 minutes.

Sprints - Run up and back on your football field as fast as possible. Rest for 1 minute. Repeat 3 times.

Situps - Lay on your back and do as many situps as you can in 2 minutes. Rest 30 seconds. Repeat 3 times.

BTW by the time you're 18, assuming you eat a good diet, train regularly and depending on your genetics you could easily weigh 180+ lbs and have little body fat.
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thanks guys ...ya i know im only 14 and its probably a little early but I want to start early just like bruce lee did lol I'm a great fan of his and my main goal in life is to be as good as him hehe

I go to the gym Everyday of the week and do cardio 30 minutes everyday and upper body one day and the next day lower body and then upper and then lower and so on lol
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OO lol i just forgot im turning 15 in february 1 so its a couple weeks.....so maybe im not that young after all!
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I'm a great fan of his and my main goal in life is to be as good as him hehe
what's wrong with you!? you're not chasing 15 year old girls around?? JJ...good luck kid.
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lol ya girls are fun lol....but still i gotta be like dat bruce lee dude...i read all his books and kno everything aabout his ways and stuff....I'm just gonna try my best to be like him
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Just be yourself, kid.

Bruce is cool and all, but he's old school.

You ought to check out the Klitschko bros (boxing); both doctors and ranked top 10 or Genki Sudo (see thread "David vs Goliath")
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I would also suggest you cut back on your lifting schedule. Try a four day schedule, day 1 chest tri's, day 2 shoulders, day 3 back bi's, day 4 legs. Keep it light concentrate on your form. Body resistance excercise's are good too. You could try alternating one week lifting one week on Tom's program. But he's right your body needs to grow. Make sure to eat yer damn veggies. I hear Bruce loved spinach, or maybe that was Popeye?
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yaya i eat very much vegetables and i mean ALOT of em...and i havent touched candy, mcdonalds, saturated\trans fat..or even almost no sugar for the past 8 months...ive been doing great.

I also am going through intense training....cuz i dun rly wanna grow more...i wanna go to UFC and beat everyone lol....that is why im dedicading my life at this young age for it
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You said you wanted to be like Bruce. Now you want to compete in the UFC? Try quitting the Indonesia - you know its illegal, right ...jk

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lol ya well my MAIN goal is to be a great well known martial artist......but with that i wanna accomplish lots of stuff to


anyways can you guys give me some pointers on stuff like protein/when to take it/if its good for you/will milk help and so on.....please help...I am also considering ordering this prodect...PLEASE tell me what you think of it and if itll help me.??

http://www.herbalife.com/hl/template...v=c_cat_sports

Any help would be greatly appreciated....yes i have tried those products before herbalife...and they are totally amazing....The cleansing products for your stomach work great and i know from experience

I used to be 40 pounds heavier .......and in a MONTH I lost that 40 pounds and kept it off ever since....just a one month program which costs 150 ...they arent any super pills or anything just makes u .......umm how can i say this politely....take a SHIT more often....so it cleans ur whole body out of toxxins to achieve your natural weight.......

So that proudct i want to order up the ...the bulk and muscle protein stuff is from the same company....but im just wondering if itll change anything in the course of a month??

Notice it also said that it has the highest possible PDCAA whatever the hell that is???LOL i dun know much about this stuff...but many bodybuilders at my gym said its great!
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I used to be 40 pounds heavier .......and in a MONTH I lost that 40 pounds and kept it off ever since....
Congratulations! Your the first teenage boy (age 15) to give birth AND to loose the associated weight!! And you haven't had women begging you for the secret or offering payment in exchange for it.

The Trojan Horse method of selling your stuff is classic.

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Yeah, he/she is tryin' to sell some wares.
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I used to be 40 pounds heavier .......and in a MONTH I lost that 40 pounds and kept it off ever since....j

So that proudct i want to order up the ...the bulk and muscle protein stuff is from the same company....
Lossing 40 pounds in a month isn't smart nor safe for a 14 year old. Like other members said your still growing. You need fat (not like that your overweight or anything) and your vitamins and other healthy foods.

I would not suggest to take any protein shakes or anything that just mainly contains protein. Protein is hard on the kidneys and if you intake too much for too long it will result in bad kidneys. A study was done among americans and it said that americans consume twice the protein we need each day.(assuming your american)

Now on weight lifting... Weight lifting is great but not at your age. Do Tom Yum's plan, its great for building up strength and endurance for now. If you are not lifting right you can injure your joint and that will cause a stunt in your growth.

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