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The Defiant One · 10-19-2005, 09:38 PM

Whats the diffirence between doing them? Besides the change in stance, and elevation.

shasan · 10-20-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Defiant One

Whats the diffirence between doing them? Besides the change in stance, and elevation.

I always thought they were the same thing... ?

seppuku · 10-20-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shasan

I always thought they were the same thing... ?

you and me both. whats the difference in elevation and stance?

The Defiant One · 10-20-2005, 06:13 PM

Pushups=Ground, and push up from both arms as the name suggests.

Pressup=Basically the same as a pushup except you're using a wall as your ground, and pushing your body away from it.

seppuku · 10-20-2005, 06:33 PM

do push ups then. have gravity working against your arm muscles not perpendicular to them.
hands together works biceps most, hands apart works chest. on kuckles makes them harder by changing muscles used and helps condition fists.

the ideal is probably hands below shoulders, on knuckles. they all work shoulders.

does the wall one actually achive anything? im off to find out if that actually works your arms or not because i cant see them working as well against a wall

The Defiant One · 10-20-2005, 09:22 PM

I feel a burn within my arms when I do them...so im going to assume arms.

The Munster · 10-20-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by seppuku

hands together works biceps most,

You meant triceps, right?

Pushups are a pushing movement. Your biceps are minimally involved if at all, depending on the hand position.

seppuku · 10-21-2005, 07:26 PM

i did mean biceps but i see where your coming from. moving downwards under control uses biceps i think.... i said biceps cos i was talking to a guy earlier that day about pressups and he thought they worked biceps when hands were close together

i tried the wall thing, and yeah you feel it in your arms, but for me at least i did a lot more before i felt that compared to normal pushups

darkrelevance · 10-21-2005, 10:00 PM

i always thought biceps were minimally involved in any sort of pushing motion having to do with the arms. Biceps if i remmember correctly are pulling muscles, and triceps are pushing muscles.

and im pretty sure the name "push"-ups kinda gives it away.

Rogue Warrior · 10-22-2005, 12:46 AM

You guys want a good workout with push ups? Ill give you one that a friend gave me long ago. You get a deck of regular poker cards. The face cards are worth 10 and the ACE's are worth 25. Now You draw 3 cards and add them up to give you the total amount of push ups that you are going to complete. Now if you draw an ACE you need to set it aside and draw another card. After you complete that set of push ups dont draw 3 more and just put the ACE infront of you and perform the 25. After draw 3 more and go from there. I think that the whole deck is worth 450 push ups. Now the rest time is 15-30 seconds before you draw 3 more cards for push ups. Try this out and get back to me...if you can type.

**HtTKar** · 10-22-2005, 12:57 AM

When you do a good pushup you use your whole body. Not just your arms. You use your hands, arms, shoulders, chest, back, abs, and all the way to your toes. Press-ups are good for when your injured, tired, or just cant do pushups for one reason or another.

Sometimes it doesn't matter how you do them as long as you do them with proper form. Say you want to do a 1000 pushups. Well you start out doing them declined, on your knuckles, zen style, or clapping. Later you tire and your arms get wider and wider. Soon your doing wide-armed pushups. Cant do anymore and you have to start using stairs to help you out (press-up style). If you cant do pushups, pressups can help you develop the muscles that will get you there.

seppuku · 10-22-2005, 03:10 PM

im up for that rogue warrier. thats gonna hurt.. i wonder how far ill get before my mind cracks under the strain... sounds a good game tho. cheers

**HtTKar** · 10-22-2005, 07:44 PM

We have a game I've played for as long as I remember called prison-pushups which is pretty similar to the game above, but has been modified.
Red=crunches
black-pushups
Aces=burpees
anything under "5", you do the most difficult varaition of that exercise as possible. For example; if you get a 2 of spades you might do fingertip pushups.

They key is to do them all. If you can't do regular pushups, do widearm or use stairs, but do them all. Go through the deck up to 3times. Once you flip the top card you have to play till the end. Once you get all 4 aces the game is over.

I've been doing this every morning for years. It's kind of a motivation for me to do these exercises which noone really likes doing.

vadrip · 10-23-2005, 01:46 PM

I was watching a show off that is shown in England and they told a man to perform press ups and to us Americans we would have said the man was doing pushups so it may be the same thing or it could a be variation of a different exercise.

seppuku · 10-24-2005, 01:10 PM

well i've asked various people, and everyone said push ups and press ups are the same thing. someone suggested they were english and american terms for the same thing. so im going back to my initial idea that they are the same.

exercises based on a pack of cards sems a good idea to me, a means to vary things.

i tried the press ups game rogue suggested. that hurt a lot and i didnt even come close to finishing. gives me something to keep myself occupied tho

10-19-2005, 09:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Defiant One Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 56 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Press up Versus Pushups Whats the diffirence between doing them? Besides the change in stance, and elevation.

10-22-2005, 12:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
HtTKar Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Outer limits Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	When you do a good pushup you use your whole body. Not just your arms. You use your hands, arms, shoulders, chest, back, abs, and all the way to your toes. Press-ups are good for when your injured, tired, or just cant do pushups for one reason or another. Sometimes it doesn't matter how you do them as long as you do them with proper form. Say you want to do a 1000 pushups. Well you start out doing them declined, on your knuckles, zen style, or clapping. Later you tire and your arms get wider and wider. Soon your doing wide-armed pushups. Cant do anymore and you have to start using stairs to help you out (press-up style). If you cant do pushups, pressups can help you develop the muscles that will get you there. __________________ "The harder you train, the harder it is to surrender" (Vince Lombardi)

10-22-2005, 07:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
HtTKar Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Outer limits Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	We have a game I've played for as long as I remember called prison-pushups which is pretty similar to the game above, but has been modified. Red=crunches black-pushups Aces=burpees anything under "5", you do the most difficult varaition of that exercise as possible. For example; if you get a 2 of spades you might do fingertip pushups. They key is to do them all. If you can't do regular pushups, do widearm or use stairs, but do them all. Go through the deck up to 3times. Once you flip the top card you have to play till the end. Once you get all 4 aces the game is over. I've been doing this every morning for years. It's kind of a motivation for me to do these exercises which noone really likes doing. __________________ "The harder you train, the harder it is to surrender" (Vince Lombardi)

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10-20-2005, 06:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
The Defiant One Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 56 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pushups=Ground, and push up from both arms as the name suggests. Pressup=Basically the same as a pushup except you're using a wall as your ground, and pushing your body away from it.

10-20-2005, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
seppuku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cambridge Posts: 350 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	do push ups then. have gravity working against your arm muscles not perpendicular to them. hands together works biceps most, hands apart works chest. on kuckles makes them harder by changing muscles used and helps condition fists. the ideal is probably hands below shoulders, on knuckles. they all work shoulders. does the wall one actually achive anything? im off to find out if that actually works your arms or not because i cant see them working as well against a wall

10-20-2005, 09:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
The Defiant One Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 56 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I feel a burn within my arms when I do them...so im going to assume arms.

10-21-2005, 07:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
seppuku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cambridge Posts: 350 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i did mean biceps but i see where your coming from. moving downwards under control uses biceps i think.... i said biceps cos i was talking to a guy earlier that day about pressups and he thought they worked biceps when hands were close together i tried the wall thing, and yeah you feel it in your arms, but for me at least i did a lot more before i felt that compared to normal pushups

10-21-2005, 10:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
darkrelevance Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i always thought biceps were minimally involved in any sort of pushing motion having to do with the arms. Biceps if i remmember correctly are pulling muscles, and triceps are pushing muscles. and im pretty sure the name "push"-ups kinda gives it away.

10-22-2005, 12:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rogue Warrior Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I live in Utah Posts: 10 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You guys want a good workout with push ups? Ill give you one that a friend gave me long ago. You get a deck of regular poker cards. The face cards are worth 10 and the ACE's are worth 25. Now You draw 3 cards and add them up to give you the total amount of push ups that you are going to complete. Now if you draw an ACE you need to set it aside and draw another card. After you complete that set of push ups dont draw 3 more and just put the ACE infront of you and perform the 25. After draw 3 more and go from there. I think that the whole deck is worth 450 push ups. Now the rest time is 15-30 seconds before you draw 3 more cards for push ups. Try this out and get back to me...if you can type.

10-22-2005, 03:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
seppuku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cambridge Posts: 350 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	im up for that rogue warrier. thats gonna hurt.. i wonder how far ill get before my mind cracks under the strain... sounds a good game tho. cheers

10-23-2005, 01:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
vadrip Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: VA Posts: 101 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was watching a show off that is shown in England and they told a man to perform press ups and to us Americans we would have said the man was doing pushups so it may be the same thing or it could a be variation of a different exercise.

10-24-2005, 01:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
seppuku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cambridge Posts: 350 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	well i've asked various people, and everyone said push ups and press ups are the same thing. someone suggested they were english and american terms for the same thing. so im going back to my initial idea that they are the same. exercises based on a pack of cards sems a good idea to me, a means to vary things. i tried the press ups game rogue suggested. that hurt a lot and i didnt even come close to finishing. gives me something to keep myself occupied tho

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