Workouts having trouble doing

[muaythaiguy15]

Im kind of a gym rat and talk about lifting maybe 50% of the time. The one thing Ive noticed is that many people have trouble doing certain excercises.

Press from behind the neck, barbell curls, flyes (strain on rotator cuff), close grip bench press. I even tried to help to see if they were doing proper form (I used to mess up my flyes, keeping them too close and making it a press) and they were. I was wondering if anyone else had problems doing certain excercises.

[blitz]

You have to start with low weights and work your way up.. You wont get proper form in all of the excersizes if you start with high weights. I mean really low weights, we did the flyes with 5 lb dumbells and worked our way up to 10+, first you start with absolute 100% form, i.e keep your arms straight, don't bend your wrists etc.. When you get the hang of it you start increasing the weight every week or two, either that or increase the reps.

I don't know what the press from behind the neck is exactly, is it a tricep or a shoulder excersize? I'd know from there.

And for barbell curls its the same as the flyes basically, start with low weights keep your arms straight, work with your elbows. Let someone help you at the start until you get the hang of the weight then start increasing. The same goes for the close grip bench press, we usually do those after 3-4 months of lifting so our arms have balance and our strength is developed.

[muaythaiguy15]

Ah sorry, I didnt really mean having trouble balancing. I more or less meant the people have pain when they do it. My friend cannot curl a Barbell at all. He has no problem with an ez curl bar but when he grabs the barbell for curls, he complains about his wrists. Another guy on the wrestling team complains about pain in his forearms when he does military presses behind the neck.

[blitz]

Make them use less weight and higher reps. It dosen't matter if they become big too fast, don't rush it, their muscles will progress and at the same time you can lift higher weights a couple of weeks later. And lots of people forget to make their people exclude forearm excersizes in their routines. I think this is a must, I've tried it firsthand and your wrists will stop hurting since your forearms can take more load off, it used to hurt when I lifted 15 lb dumbells, so I had to go down to 10 until my wrists didn't hurt anymore. Make them do front and back forearms. You can do the back forearms like a bicep curl except your fists are facing the ground when clenched and make sure they keep their elbows straight.

And again, for the flyes you can just lower the weight and do higher reps. I had the same problem with flyes, I could only do 20 reps with low weight, now I can do 50 and I increased my weights.

And make sure the guys eat right and get enough sleep. Sleep is a major factor in lifting. Just ask them how much they sleep etc..
When I sleep well I can lift about 10 lbs more and not need help with the last couple of reps. 10 lbs isn't much but it shows that not enough sleep can make you wear a person out, and when you can't lift right you will get pain.

I'm just rambling sorry but I'm just listing some of the things that can make your friends lift better in case you didn't know about them.

[muaythaiguy15]

Hah, he complained this morning in the gym and I told him to just stop doing it. Now he just does hammer curls and hes fine with it. It was too annoying listening to complaining when youre trying to incline.

[Scott Bolinger]

just use lower weight
and make sure your doing a full body workout