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Old 03-16-2006, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey just the other day I increased my PR of military press to 1 rep with 100 lbs. Im feeling pretty good about my shoulder strength, its increased alot in the past few monthes despite occasional rotator cuff pain. I was just wondering what are the upper limits of ability in lifts that arent done in conventional powerlifting competitions. I personally like to look up records of lifts(bench press, squat etc) so I can sort of benchmark my progress in the bigger picture. Like I weigh 145 lbs and Ive read that the records for Benching at my weight are somewhere between 300-400 lbs, so it helps me put in perspective how my strength(about 150 lb bench) matches up to the strongest in the world. The thing is, I havent been able to find any records for other lifts like the military press and the bentover row. I was thinking that maybe you guys could help out by telling me maybe what are the highest weights youve heard of being used in these lifts. Anything is useful, maybe the most youve personally lifted or what youve heard people you know say they can lift. Personally my PRs in these lifts are :
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So if youve got something to contribute please speak up as Im kind of in the dark about what kind of numbers the strongest in the world could lift in these exercises. Thanks
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I dont know about world records... well actually, worlds strongest man 94, 95, or 96, I saw them putting up numbers like 420 from behind the head. But they are HUGE, so take that for what its worth.

At 17 (I'm 18 now) I did a military press (barbell, behind the head) with 160 pounds at about 165 pounds myself.

I'm not trying to brag but thats kinda high for most people that age (I have no clue waht age you are could be 12 years old and a monster). I think my training partner got up 130 from behind his head. (He was at 150) We're both about 5'10 btw. Other kids couldnt get close to that, like the fitness class kids would struggle with 70,80 pounds.

Me and my partner were somewhat an anomaly for that weightroom, as we were the only ones who did freeweight (not smith) bench, we were the only ones to do deadlifts, etc, we were the only ones who did full extension pullups, and later weighted pullups.

As you mentioned deadlifts I assume your not one of the typical highschool weightroom people who do curls and that. My deadlift was 325 btw, which was kinda low compared to my other lifts, and I'm scared to mention my squat for fear of being laughed at.. (lol), so hope that helps.. somehow.
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Im actually 16 and like 5 monthes and ive been hitting the weights for about a year and half so im definietely not a monster. 420 lbs is amazing I thought it would be more like 300, like I was watching that worlds strongest man and they were overhead pressing logs and the highest weight was something like 260 and those huge strong guys had lots of trouble with it. I guess you could say im not an average high school lifter, most of the guys I know focus on chest and arms mainly, rarely do I see other guys deadlifting in the gym and most of the guys who do compete at a high level in some sport(theres one guy at our school whos a national level 100m sprinter and ive seen him doing lots of unconventional plyos etc.) Dont worry about your deadlift and squat numbers though im only lifting something like 200 lbs in those lifts at 145 lbs so it could be worse.(ive only been doing these consistently for about 3/4 of a year but by no means am I very endowed in them.)
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when I was 16, my weight was 145,
my work out weight was 130 , doing 5 sets of 5
curled and french curled 70
squat 325 lbs
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100 pounds on a bench press at 145 is a allright weights. the thing is, is if your going for bulk, you usually do sets of five. But for more toning and endurance, you go more with sets of 10 and 15. So, were I usually do setts of 5X5, I usually have my students do 3 sets of 10 on most weight lifting stations.
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actually my bench is 150 lbs, its my military press(overhead bb shoulder press) that is 100 lbs. I personally do around 3 sets for each exercise, anymore and it takes too long and it takes too much out of me so Its harder to do other training(grappling, kickboxing, soccer etc). Actually dunno if uve heard of it but golds gym and i think it was ESPN teamed up and did a study of sets. They tested people who already did a 6 week preliminary traiining sesion. Then they got 1 group to do 1 set for each exercise for 6 weeks, another group did 2 sets each, and yet another did 3 sets each. Surprisingly enough(at least to me) the 1 set group made the best results. The group that did 1 set increased 27%, the group of 2 sets got 24%, and the 3 set group got only 16%. oh and Im actually training for purely strength now, I feel that any bigger than 145 at 5 foot 6 and a half would be too big for me.
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is that curl one armed? because if it is thats amazing!
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is that curl one armed? because if it is thats amazing!
No, its two armed. I'm not a big or strong guy.
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