is this considered over training?

[rlos1000]

Hi, I was wondering what you guys think, is it bad to work on abs everday m-f even saturday sometimes? Also is it bad to run m-f everday afternoon(mid-jogging type)? I also lift weights MWF. Thanks

[rlos1000]

the things i do m-f is i run with my dog for like 20-25min at night, plus when i come back i do 100cunchs or so before i go to sleep, but when i usually workout on abs like tuesday and thursday lunch time i do 200-300plus crunchs

[Broadsword2004]

Depends on how you train. Also depends on the muscles. Abs, forearms, and calves can be trained virtually everyday of the week with only one day given for rest.

Virtually all other muscles, it depends on your training. If you train the muscle hard, to failure, on training day, you should NOT do M-W-F training; you instead need to give two days rest in between. So if you do 4 or 5 sets benchpress to failure and 4 sets military press to failure on Monday, wait until Thursday before training those muscle groups again.

If however you do not train to failure, you can do the exercises more often. Say for example you can do a max set of 12 pullups, so on Monday you just do 4 every hour. You are not training to failure and at the end of the day can have 48 pullups done without having done any to failure.

You can then rest on Tuesday and repeat it on Wednesday, and maybe once a week do a set of pullups to max to see how many you can do.

If you lift weights without going to failure, M-W-F I think would be okay, but if you do go to failure, definitely wait two days in between workouts.

Forearms and calves, you can fry them 6 days a week. They are very dense muscles, very tough to stimulate because they get worked everyday so they are stubborn. You can train calves HARD 6 days a week and forearms too, I believe. And abs.

[rlos1000]

thanks, do you know any good workouts for forearms?

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Dude, all that excersise especially the running can damage your tendons and joints...

[Broadsword2004]

No it won't, only if he does it too much and without proper strength training. For example, get strong legs (try to get to where you can squat twice your bodyweight and hamstrings that can curl at least 60% of what your quads can press) and you should be okay. Otherwise, be careful with sprinting. It puts loads of stress on the joints so have muscular legs, give ample recovery time, and run with proper running shoes.

Jogging is soft and cross-country running should be oaky if done on grass; there are guys in their 70s who run marathons still.

Granted, don't go barbell squat a heavy weight for 5 sets on Monday, then Tuesday morning go do sprints; your muscles will not have had any time to recover and will be weaker and that makes you injury prone.

Regarding forearms, the best exercises are biceps curls (dumbell and barbell), reverse-grip biceps curls (hold the bar so the back of your hand is facing skyward---note you can't handle as much weight this way), and wrist curls, in which you rest your forearms on a bench and curl the weight using only your wrists and thus forearm strength.

Zottman curls are also great for forearms, but they are very difficult to describe. Check google.

Also good is using thick bars that force you to grip harder to hold onto them.

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Abs are fine to train every day. the muscle is so compact and dense and people always do unweighted exercises so it's fine really. But sounds like you should implement different ab exercises to hit different parts of abs instead of just lots of crunches. Like leg raises, frogs and shit.

The M-W-F routine is cool, as long as each muscle you work gets atleast a 48 hr rest like been said. Maybe alternate between upper and lower body weorkouts. So all the muscle get plenty of recovery time.

http://www.trulyhuge.com/bodybuilding/forearms.htm

These are the 3 main ones to do for forearm work. Wrist rollers, dumbell circles and barbell rotations are good too. It's cool to train them every day too.

As for lots of cardio, you should just listen to your body. If it's getting too much, it will tell you

hope this helps