Need advice on muscle growth

[Michael Wright]

Originally Posted by kanik

But I can (and have) have a whole week of lying around, doing nothing much in particular, playing video games, listening to ACDC, etc. etc. while eating the same amounts if not more, AND I dont eat food with low calories either, I'll stick a chunk of butter in my noodles pumped with cheese and some olive oil, stack on the bullshit ya know? It doesnt matter what I eat... I MIGHT put on a 2-3 kgs at most. But I guess my body is good in the sence that I cant really lose much more than 2-3 kgs too.... Also no matter how much stronger I get (eg. Be able to up my weights, do a bunch more reps, more pull-ups... somthing) I dont put on weight, my muscle just kinna tones and might get slightly bigger.

ACDC? The main thing in there dude is you're getting a daily dose of Angus, I salute you!

[kanik]

I'm just telling you what happens man. I eat whatever I want and a lot of it, I dont put weight on. Even along with weight gainers. It just doesnt happen. It took my sooooooooo long to be able to put on 2 kgs that wont fall off in a day or two.

[FitnessRubber]

Originally Posted by kanik

I'm just telling you what happens man. I eat whatever I want and a lot of it, I dont put weight on. Even along with weight gainers. It just doesnt happen. It took my sooooooooo long to be able to put on 2 kgs that wont fall off in a day or two.

it's tough when you want to gain and can't...

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by FitnessRubber

it's tough when you want to gain and can't...

more accurately its tough to gain when you havent been shown correctly what to do.
everyone can gain full stop.
If you cant its because you are making mistakes.
You cant destroy hundreds of years of science with "its not working for me"

Its simply a case of you are doing it incorrectly.

[kanik]

Originally Posted by Ghost

more accurately its tough to gain when you havent been shown correctly what to do.
everyone can gain full stop.
If you cant its because you are making mistakes.
You cant destroy hundreds of years of science with "its not working for me"

Its simply a case of you are doing it incorrectly.

What if you have a supercharged metabolism? I am dead serious man, it doesnt matter if the diet puts weight on other people, it has a hard as hell time doing it with me! Maby its coz I never stop moving... and eat mounds of chilli in everything....

[kanik]

Originally Posted by Michael Wright

ACDC? The main thing in there dude is you're getting a daily dose of Angus, I salute you!

Angus is tha king! How in hell can he play so well while rolling around on his back and headbanging and what-not?? Damn he's good!

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by kanik

What if you have a supercharged metabolism? I am dead serious man, it doesnt matter if the diet puts weight on other people, it has a hard as hell time doing it with me! Maby its coz I never stop moving... and eat mounds of chilli in everything....

I understand mate, i know you are serious but....
supercharged to what level, it doesnt exist im afraid.
What does exist is people perceptions of eating alot being vastly different.
in the same way many fat people claim to not eat much.
In their perception they dont.

You may well feel like you are eating alot, its possible that at certain times on certain days you do eat alot. Over the week though i expect your calorie count falls far short of what you really think it is.

[FitnessRubber]

Originally Posted by Ghost

I understand mate, i know you are serious but....
supercharged to what level, it doesnt exist im afraid.
What does exist is people perceptions of eating alot being vastly different.
in the same way many fat people claim to not eat much.
In their perception they dont.

You may well feel like you are eating alot, its possible that at certain times on certain days you do eat alot. Over the week though i expect your calorie count falls far short of what you really think it is.

not to pick a fight, but i've known some fat people who really don't eat much - it's usually because they've eaten so little that they've tanked their metabolisms and just can't get shit back together to take it off again

[DickHardman]

you can slow down your metabolism by changing your eating habits.

i am a hardgainer too, though ive gained 30 lbs of muscle from weight lifting, and it only took me about 8-10 months to gain 20 lbs. i didnt even do anything crazy, all i did was fallow a basic 3 day a week lifting routine. i didnt even know how to lift properly at the time, i got all my information from the internet and from watching others in the gym and i was still able to gain.

one thing i did was add an extra glass of milk and a banana to every meal i ate. so thats like 4-5 extra tall glasses of milk and 4-5 bananas extra that i ate per day in addition to my regular meals, and i believe that was a big factor in helping me make gains.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by FitnessRubber

not to pick a fight, but i've known some fat people who really don't eat much - it's usually because they've eaten so little that they've tanked their metabolisms and just can't get shit back together to take it off again

I know you believe it mate, most of the general public does. What you need to look at always is the consistency, fat people rarely eat large amounts in front of other people. They tend to overeat in private.
Everyone loves the idea of blaming their metabolism yet scientific research has shown metabolic rates dont vary that much and people have very odd eating habits, especially those that are very thin/overweight.

gaining or losing weight is as much about the mind as it is about the body. People will look for, and believe, any excuse they can to get them off the hook. The metabolic rate is one that everyone has gone for and so it works most of the time.
The other one is "its not in my genes, my genetics arent right for it" which is also complete crap.
Most people that are overweights metabolism is through the roof high due to them being overweight.
I mean really, you are suggesting that your friends/family that are fat are fat because they eat so little. get real.

The body works in a simple way, calories in vs calories out, if in is higher than out you gain weight, if not then you lose weight. Its never more complicated than that, your metabolic rate can change over a long time but not by more than a few hundred calories a day.

[FitnessRubber]

Originally Posted by Ghost

gaining or losing weight is as much about the mind as it is about the body. People will look for, and believe, any excuse they can to get them off the hook. The metabolic rate is one that everyone has gone for and so it works most of the time.
The other one is "its not in my genes, my genetics arent right for it" which is also complete crap.
Most people that are overweights metabolism is through the roof high due to them being overweight.
I mean really, you are suggesting that your friends/family that are fat are fat because they eat so little. get real.

The body works in a simple way, calories in vs calories out, if in is higher than out you gain weight, if not then you lose weight. Its never more complicated than that, your metabolic rate can change over a long time but not by more than a few hundred calories a day.

No, seriously, I'm not suggesting it's a general rule, but I've lived with folks who it's the case for - in some cases it's because there are thyroid issues in addition to a bad caloric balance, but I've seen people stop losing weight from eating too little. Hell, I knew a girl who was anorectic who would eat about 200 cals every other day and stopped losing weight when she got to around 90 pounds even though she started working out more.

I'm not sayin' it's everybody - I'm saying it happens, because it does.