bare knuckle training

[lilwizard]

I want to become a great bare-knuckle boxer. I have boxed in the past and right now have a training gym set up in my garage. My training is the same as a normal boxers. Any training tips on how to improve my bare-knuckle boxing would be appreciated.(i do all my training bare knuckle to get to know what it feels like.) Thanks

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by lilwizard

I want to become a great bare-knuckle boxer. I have boxed in the past and right now have a training gym set up in my garage. My training is the same as a normal boxers. Any training tips on how to improve my bare-knuckle boxing would be appreciated.(i do all my training bare knuckle to get to know what it feels like.) Thanks

Dont train bare knuckle every time. Get some thin leather gloves and use those, i never train completely bare knuckle, you need to take care of your hands.

You need to get a roller bar with a rope and a weight on it for rolling up and down to strengthen forearm and wrist.
Get a dog ball from a pet shop and use this to strengthen the hand, if you want a routine for all of these i can do.
and i can link you for a place to get the roller with rope thing if you want.

Concentrate on a higher gaurd than in normal boxing. You need to focus on your hand position when you are punching, do this carefully to make sure your head is VERY well protected.
I suggest you also practice a lot of footwork. You have to be able to move in and out fast for bare knuckle.

You also need to be in the very highest state of fitness possible. If you watch bare knuckle fights online you will find most of them end up exhausted. If you arent tired you will stand more chance.

You need to spar a lot. Get down to a boxing gym. you wont get anywhere just training on your bag with no pad work and no sparring. Because the other guy will have that training, so you cant compete if you dont too.
I mean to do it well you have to really do a lot.

[lilwizard]

i would like a routine for strengthing the forarm and wrist. Thanks

[Ghost]

Thats the roller i was on about.
Unlike in the picture, ross is actually doing this badly, shame on him, keep your arms completely straight, this isolates the forearms. DONT BEND YOUR ELBOWS
You attach a weight, start with something like 5kg, roll it up to the top and back down again carefully, not letting it drop, and not too fast, its not a race.

Dont let your arms drop below parallel either. So you do this one first of all and build up to 3 times, youll need a 2 minute rest or so between sets. Then gradually start increasing the weight, something like 10-15kg is a good goal.

You can do this 3 times a week. So up and down 3 times, its very hard, if its not hard enough increase the weight. You must remember to increase the weight fairly regularly in order to progress.

with the ball do static holds with each finger for 10 seconds each, you squeeze the ball as hard as you can between one finger and thumb, one at a time for 10 seconds each. Do this 3 or more times through, just build it up.

In addition you can get heavy duty grippers, look online and you should find some that are higher poundage.
You can do this for max reps and try to beat your last number, there are things for this online as well, you can do things like 25 time arms in front, 25 times arms above your head, 25 times arms out to the side and then rest and repeat.
Stuff like that you get the idea.

If you combine all this plus hitting pads and bag you will get the strength you need in the hands and arms, but build it up gradually.

You also need to train your body really hard, google rossboxing and read the articles on there, you wont get better than that.

However, and this is my opinion, id recommend a regular bodybuilding type muscle building phase for 3-6 months to start with to slap on some solid muscle. You then need to work functional muscle, i like this approach, do your own research though and decide for yourself.

[lilwizard]

When im doing my shadow boxing and heavy bag and speed bag how many mins per round? I have been doing 3 min rounds with a 1 min break. Thanks

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by lilwizard

When im doing my shadow boxing and heavy bag and speed bag how many mins per round? I have been doing 3 min rounds with a 1 min break. Thanks

build up to 5 mins with a 1 minute break for training.
My background is thai boxing and thats what we use in training.
Bag work wise build up to 8 rounds for straight forward bag hitting.

but mix it up, read this:
http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym24.htm
The link in this article is broken but here it is working:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFfy9lXFGE

Watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=rossenamait

shadow boxing 3 rounds is enough speed bag up to you, im not a fan of them and dont use them.

http://www.rossboxing.com/
read the articles on here, this guy really knows his stuff. The only thing like i said before is i like a 6 month bodybuilding program for beginners then move on to functional strength training, thats my personal preference though. Bodybuilding increases mitochondrial density in Type I muscle fibres which is useful and 6 months worth of size will make you physically a bit more resistant. imo.

I dont mean do all the stuff on his site i mean read it all, absorb it and do the bits you want to.

[lilwizard]

So once i have a couple months of training how do i find these bare-knuckle boxing matches. Thanks

[Michael Wright]

I have to ask the question. Why Bare Knuckle? I mean with all of the fantastic combat sport arenas we have now, why go for something that I guarantee you will permanently damage your health?

I think this is a fantasy driven from no experience of the reality

[Filero]

Originally Posted by Michael Wright

I think this is a fantasy driven from no experience of the reality

No way, it's perfectly realistic to do bare-knuckle fighting with a couple of months of solo garage training and no idea where to find an actual opponent

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by lilwizard

So once i have a couple months of training how do i find these bare-knuckle boxing matches. Thanks

Dont waste my time.

[lilwizard]

How am i wasting your time. I want to become a great bare-knuckle boxer.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by lilwizard

How am i wasting your time. I want to become a great bare-knuckle boxer.

Your time scale isnt realistic. If you want to do this then please give me some details.

Age.
Weight in kg
Boxing experience.
A realistic time scale by which you think you can compete. (you can forget 2 months)

[Michael Wright]

I think this guy is yanking your chain mate

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by Michael Wright

I think this guy is yanking your chain mate

I think so too, giving benefit of the doubt for a minute.


To the OP:
On to organizing a fight. Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQzYnbljZ9Y

Not exactly brains of britain this guy but his name address and phone number are there. I expect the net gets used for this stuff a lot now.
my suggestion would be to do something similar but a bit more sensible and less scared than these guys.

Youll get fights if you want them

[lilwizard]

Im 14, 6'0 181 pounds 10 months of boxing experience 6 bouts I would like to have a bout in 3-6 months