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Old 03-26-2008, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I used to lift weights excessively, only compound and explosive lifts, and whereas i noticed an improvement in my ground game, it killed my stand up game. I now only box and have given up weights altogether, and focused only on running, pushups, dips, and pull ups. My stamina altogether has massively improved, and i can box for a good 5 rounds before I gas. when I do grapple I still do well because with all of the additional bodyweight exercises I focus on techniques that require skill as opposed to brute strength. just a thought for those who dont have time to hit a gym, you can still be a great fighter without the extra money spent on a gym and protein
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While that is definitely true, it's also the case that a proper supplemental S&C program can propel a fighter to greater achievements. It's no secret that if your S&C program is not well-suited for boxing, it will degrade rather than improve your boxing, and I suspect that that is the case with you -- your supplemental strength work just wasn't the right type.

To get an idea of what a S&C program for a fighter should look like, I think there's no better place to start than Ross's Infinite Intensity or Never Gymless. It focuses right in on the supplemental S&C work needed for fighters, including making sure your S&C work doesn't interfere with your much-more-important skill work in the gym (avoiding injuries and CNS burnout), and ensuring the S&C program builds the things fighters need (strength, explosive power, speed, muscular endurance, and high work capacity in all 3 cardio energy systems), all while avoiding hypertrophy so you don't bump yourself into the next weight class. You might be amazed at how much a properly-designed supplemental S&C program can help you, especially if you've already felt the effects of an improperly-designed one.
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While that is definitely true, it's also the case that a proper supplemental S&C program can propel a fighter to greater achievements. It's no secret that if your S&C program is not well-suited for boxing, it will degrade rather than improve your boxing, and I suspect that that is the case with you -- your supplemental strength work just wasn't the right type.

To get an idea of what a S&C program for a fighter should look like, I think there's no better place to start than Ross's Infinite Intensity or Never Gymless. It focuses right in on the supplemental S&C work needed for fighters, including making sure your S&C work doesn't interfere with your much-more-important skill work in the gym (avoiding injuries and CNS burnout), and ensuring the S&C program builds the things fighters need (strength, explosive power, speed, muscular endurance, and high work capacity in all 3 cardio energy systems), all while avoiding hypertrophy so you don't bump yourself into the next weight class. You might be amazed at how much a properly-designed supplemental S&C program can help you, especially if you've already felt the effects of an improperly-designed one.
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