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Old 06-02-2003, 09:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering whether, if I do a variety of puchips, chinups, and bag work, I am working pretty much all themuscle groups of my upper body.
If not, what am I missing out and what would I do to include it?
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Old 06-02-2003, 09:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm sure you all knew this anyway, but I meant 'pushups', not puchips, or whatever I wrote.
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Define chin-ups. What do you do? Make sure you do a variety of em. Like wide grip pull-ups (palms facing away), those are real good for upper back. Sternum and parrallel grip are great chins too. Cause if your only doing like medium grip, palms facing you, chins, then your not gonna get as good of an upper back. Of course you are missing lower body...........but I suppose you knew that.
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Pushups - use your pectoral (chest), triceps and front shoulder muscles.

Chinups - Palms inward work more of the biceps and latissimus dorsi (called lats). Palms outward use less bicep and more of the upper back and lats; with a wider grip, you work more of the inner muscles of your upper back.

Heavy bag - Is good for developing power in your punches and kicks. If you blast away with maximum power over an extended period of time, then you are developing power/endurance - the ability to fire fast twitch muscle fibers repetitively. Hence after doing this for a long time, you get the burn and eventual muscle failure.

Your kicks and punches require push off from your legs (calves,quadriceps), and explosive body rotation (abs, hips, lats). Furthermore keeping your hands up requires good shoulder stamina, while punching adds extension muscles (shoulder, triceps) and retraction (upper back).

Yeah, I would ad squats or lunges without weights and maybe toe raises. And lay off the puchips.....
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Thanks guys.
Yeah, I realize I didn't post about the lower body - Thought I'd save it, but here it is.
Running, lunges, squats and kicking would probably be about complete wouldn't it?
For the chinups (okay, at the moment I REALLY suck at these, but have just had a bar installed in the house so should be improving soon), yeah, I'd be mixing them up with palms facing in/out, wide grip etc.


And I gotta lay off those puchips, I agree, they're killin me.
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*Note to self - Start running before saying I'm a runner.
Then again, why bother? Noone will know the difference.
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"*Note to self - Start running before saying I'm a runner.
Then again, why bother? Noone will know the difference."

We know. We know all...

On a serious note you will want to run different ways to meet different training goals.

GENERAL AEROBIC CONDITIONING
Pro-fighters as well as aspiring amateurs will do some distance running in the morning for general aerobic conditioning. Mike Tyson runs no more than 4 miles according to his trainer Freddie Roach. He does this everyday at 4:30 am I've read that some muay thai camps have their runners getting up around the same time for 10KM runs (or 6.1 miles). If you run more than this, then you are likely diverting too much time and energy to endurance. Not only will you keep yourself sleek, but you will see yourself with robust energy during and after class.

INTERVAL TRAINING
This is more specific for fight or tournament training. You want to run in intervals that copy your work profile during a fight. Let's say you want to fight at a tournament that has 3 3min rounds, 1 min rest. Then you run at an intense pace for 3 min straight (puke) and coast for 1 min. Repeat. This will allow you to keep focus after a few rounds of intense sparring, despite having taken a beating...just joking...sort of.

SPRINTING
Provides explosive strength for your legs. I wouldn't start sprinting right away, but do one of the above routines several times a week for 3 weeks will prepare your legs. Sprint workouts won't last as long as the others because of its energy burning nature, which could be a plus if your are short on time.
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"Battery - a small unit of power"

This isn't quite correct is it? A battery is actually a device for storing (potential) electromagnetic energy.
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Gee, Terry.
Way to burst my bubble.
Small unit of power was so apt too....
Oh well, back to the drwaing board...
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How about, "Battery - the greatest salmon master of them all".

I'm open to suggestions, although I'll admit that last one there will be hard to beat.
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Great, planning on releasing your own grill now? Then you'd be a true salmon master....but your vegan....ok.

How about this

"Hi, I'm battery and I shock the hell out of people."
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pretty good stuff. I suggest you READ. A LOT. Just keep reading. Martial arts mags, bodybuilding mags, Grappling, Boxing, football training routines, soccore training routines, etc, etc. READ, expand your mind. But what everyone just gave is a good basic conditioning routine. I wish you all the luck.

I don't understand your whole samon monster and battery bit. I suggest you come up with something completely new. Like, well not in this forum, but In another forum I'm known as


Builder - arrogant, pompous bastard who'll turn you into the best conditioned freak in the shortest time possible.

Something like that.
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Heehee, Tom Yum, I can be vegan AND a salmon master as long as I don't eat the salmon, hurt the salmon, or exploit them in any way. So long as I am only the master of living, willing salmon, all is well in the world of veganism.


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"Hi, I'm battery and I shock the hell out of people."
I like this! Bodacious. I'll add it to my list of 'serious considerations".

Builderofmuscle (can i just call you BoM? Or maybe BoMMy, between good friends?) I agree, reading is important. especially when i'm feeling too lazy to actually DO anything... Sigh.
Luckily I have a bro very heavily into body building, working out whatever and he has all the mags, plus equipment.
Score one for me!

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Like, the Lollipop Chicken?
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I like the salmon master idea. It's funny and very surreal.
"Oh by the way I am the supreme salmon MASTER!!!"

You really do not want to know what they put in those "Poo-Chips"...

How about

"PS I am the vegan MASTER, I eat burgers made out of cabbages (but only ones that have been allowed to die of natural causes).... so very tired.... need meat..."
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You really do not want to know what they put in those "Poo-Chips"...
Not (gasp!) ... meat!?
I couldn't handle it! Tell me it isn't so!

Hehe. I am the almighty, bodaciously supreme salmon master. I like it.
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