protein

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Paul Wilson
Also you could try Flax seed. It contains 25-30 grams of protein. Plus it helps prevent Cancers.

To get 25-30g of proteind from flax seed you have to take 100g a day. That's not enough protein to make a difference.

[Ghost]

I heard flax seed makes you go.

I mean if you take that much, youre gon na be in trouble.

[Paul Wilson]

I take one tablespoon in the mourning. And one TS before bed.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Paul Wilson
I take one tablespoon in the mourning. And one TS before bed.

*MORNING

Most doctors suggest you take 3tbsp. or more a day.

[Paul Wilson]

Yeah sorry!

Sorry again I forgot to say I have one TS in the afternnoon.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by falcon3624


To get 25-30g of proteind from flax seed you have to take 100g a day. That's not enough protein to make a difference.

not a big fan of flax seed, but your comment made me laugh. Most foods only contain at best 25-30% of protein (chicken, tuna, etc), that would mean you have to consume 100g to get your 25-30 grams of protein.

so are they not enough to make a difference too? - I think you was missing he's point, he did not mean just eat a 100g of flax seed a day and nothing else. He ment to implement it into your current diet.

That would mean, 6*25-30g's of p = 150 - 180 grams of p a day! - 6 being the number of meals you have each day just incase you didn't know.

peace.

[falcon3624]

I know what he meant Kurt. My whole point is that 100g is 3-1/2oz. and that does not equal 25-30g protein for you information that equals 20g. Most people take about that amount at the most daily. For someone that is doing a high protein diet and is not a skinny little boy........that is not enough to make a difference one way or the other. I weigh in at 240lbs. so I take in about 250-300g daily.........20g don't make a real big difference in my diet. What most people don't like though is the fact that you might get you 20g of protein for eating 100g of flax seed but you also get 41g of fat with that. What I am trying to say is that other foods like chicken, fish, lean beef should be the main source of protein and not to rely on seeds and so forth because they contain much more fat with less protein.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by falcon3624
I know what he meant Kurt. My whole point is that 100g is 3-1/2oz. and that does not equal 25-30g protein for you information that equals 20g. Most people take about that amount at the most daily. For someone that is doing a high protein diet and is not a skinny little boy........that is not enough to make a difference one way or the other. I weigh in at 240lbs. so I take in about 250-300g daily.........20g don't make a real big difference in my diet. What most people don't like though is the fact that you might get you 20g of protein for eating 100g of flax seed but you also get 41g of fat with that. What I am trying to say is that other foods like chicken, fish, lean beef should be the main source of protein and not to rely on seeds and so forth because they contain much more fat with less protein.

ok, sorry its been a while to reply, been out of the country.

bump on the chicken, etc.

scientific research has shown that 1.3g's for every lb of bodyweight is the 'perfect' amount, i take 220ish grams a day when adding mass.

peace.

[Yang]

I'm a martial artist and also a amatuer bodybuilder and the best thing for you to do is take whey protein. Its the best form of protein and gives you the best gains. I don't know how much you weight but I'm 5'6 and 151lbs. And my intake is around 250 grams of protein a day. You should take in about 200 grams day. That should be good. Try companys like gnc, and weiders.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by Yang
I'm a martial artist and also a amatuer bodybuilder and the best thing for you to do is take whey protein. Its the best form of protein and gives you the best gains. I don't know how much you weight but I'm 5'6 and 151lbs. And my intake is around 250 grams of protein a day. You should take in about 200 grams day. That should be good. Try companys like gnc, and weiders.

Whey isn't the best form, they all have their benefits cassien is very good as it is slow digesting, ideal for taking before you go to sleep - as your body is going to be going 8 hours without any food - I prefer Whey for taking right after a workout as it allows me to get protein in my body in the quickest possible way - whey being the quicked to break down.

Never tried soy protein supplement, nor done much research on it. any takers?

Few other companies you might want to try. AST, Prolab, Designer Whey, Optimum Whey. I've always been happy with the products I've tried from these brands. O, AND STAY AWAY FROM MUSCLETECH!

[allswoledup]

Take a protein supplement if you are out to gain lean mass,and especially if you have a hard time eating many meals throughout the day.

I have taken soy protein,and it is a fair source if you are tight on funds...this is when I use it most,but do not limit your supplement ation to the majority of soy since it is lacking in the aminos methinone and cysteine.

Oh,and if you intend on taking a soy protein supplement then make sure it is an ISOLATE form since any other form will have impurities that will negate your efforts.

I go with SUPRO brand since all other brands tend to be of lower quality and tear my stomach up something bad in the stomach cramp/gas department.
Supro works like a charm though with no stomach upset whatsoever.

[Stigma]

This 1.3g/pund thing, does this include, or not include, the protein that you get from your natural meals? I usually some eat fish, chicken or red meat as a (small) part of most meals, and i should get some protein from that each day aswell. So should i eat 1.3g/pund as supplement, or would perhaps 50-70% of that be enough considering i have other sources for the protein?

Also, for those of us who dont work out every day, should we decrease the protein intake on those days where we are inactive, and only do full-dose on the practise days? (If we assume for the sake of arguement that the supplements are taken right after training).

Ive not been too into the whole diet thing so far, but im becomming increasingly curious to wether there is an untapped potential here for me to use...

-Stigma

[grubbogoppoly]

Hate to tell you this but there isn't that much scientific research that states 1.3/pound. Where did you get this number? Sounds like some slick manipulation in a ad in a mag to me.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by grubbogoppoly
Hate to tell you this but there isn't that much scientific research that states 1.3/pound. Where did you get this number? Sounds like some slick manipulation in a ad in a mag to me.

Hey, no I can't remember whether it was from a site, or a friend. There is limited research on the amount of protein u should take, but one case found that 1.3g/pound is the most optimum. I aim for around 1.3-1.7 g/pounds and I know body builders who go right into the 2g-3g/pound.

peace.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by Stigma
This 1.3g/pund thing, does this include, or not include, the protein that you get from your natural meals? I usually some eat fish, chicken or red meat as a (small) part of most meals, and i should get some protein from that each day aswell. So should i eat 1.3g/pund as supplement, or would perhaps 50-70% of that be enough considering i have other sources for the protein?

Also, for those of us who dont work out every day, should we decrease the protein intake on those days where we are inactive, and only do full-dose on the practise days? (If we assume for the sake of arguement that the supplements are taken right after training).

Ive not been too into the whole diet thing so far, but im becomming increasingly curious to wether there is an untapped potential here for me to use...

-Stigma

1.3g/pound is a guide for your macronutrient build up. using this, a 150lb man would consume 195 grams of protein through the whole day, this can be achieved by consuming meals aswell as supps.

On days I don't workout I lower my calories slightly, as I won't be expending as many. I do not lower my protein intake much, as I know it is needed for the new growth my body is undertaking.

And you should def. look into sorting yourself out with a well planned diet, you will see far better results in strength and recovery, there will be much 'untapped potential' for you to unleash.
peace.