The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**Garland** · 06-09-2006, 09:47 PM

Okay...what the hell type of silat is this?
I've heard of hardcore training, but this is freakin' ridiculous!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27280948015427

stabbychick · 06-09-2006, 11:47 PM

I don't know what good that training does, but no thanks!!!

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Tant01 · 06-10-2006, 03:03 AM

I'll just sit here for an hour waiting for my stupid computer to play 6 minutes of video.... NOT.

I might be able to answer if you TELL me what's on the tape?

stabbychick · 06-10-2006, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tant01

I'll just sit here for an hour waiting for my stupid computer to play 6 minutes of video.... NOT.

I might be able to answer if you TELL me what's on the tape?

It seems like they boiled some oil, then some dudes sat down indian style while they let a guy ladle it onto their hands and shoulders! Basting as a form of training?

Looks like it was Thanksgiving and they were the turkeys.

Tant01 · 06-10-2006, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garland

Okay...what the hell type of silat is this?
I've heard of hardcore training, but this is freakin' ridiculous!

Pentjak Silat Gayong practitioners have used boiling oil in rituals of "invulnerability" since the 1940's. By dipping their hands into a cauldron of boiling oil (mandi minyak) they test their faith. Powerful war magic and prayers are said to prevent injury.

A modern twist on this is an extremeist muslim cult known as the brotherhood of inner power. (Al Ma'unah) Members claim to follow the teachings of the Koran and a cleric named Amin Razali.

Read terrorists that support Jihad

aseepish · 06-10-2006, 05:01 AM

I saw this on the Singaporean version of Mythbusters - it's really lemon juice mixed with oil. The lemon juice boils at a much lower temperature, alowing the "mystic" to dip his body parts into it.

Tant01 · 06-10-2006, 10:06 AM

That's good because oil will reach it's flash point before it boils unless there is something in it to cook.

Tant01 · 06-10-2006, 11:27 AM

MAGICKAL OILS OF INDONESIAN SHAMANISM
Introduction Almost every shamanic and pagan culture has its own collection of oils used for occult and magickal purposes. In this article we will describe a few of these "minyak" (as oils are called in the Indonesian/Malayan tongue) to be found in the Indonesian archipelago...

Minyak Cimande
Among martial-artists of Pencak Silat in Java, Indonesia, the Cimande (pronounced: Chee-Mun-Day) oil is quite famed for its power of invulnerability and its ability to assist the healing of broken bones, bruises, wounds, muscle-pull, twisted ligaments, etc. The physical formula and appearance of the Cimande oil may vary from one shaman producer to another, but the magickal power permeating them as empowered by these producers, are the same. Some of the ingredients of the Cimande oil are scarce and not easily obtainable, therefore occasionally, the producers of the Cimande oils have to make do with what is available and use the best substitutes--this also contributes to the different appearances from one stock to another even by the same producer. There are many of these Cimande oils sold in traditional markets but not all are genuine--most have been diluted by their resellers to make more profit, so one has to exercise caution when purchasing them. The reseller's practice of cutting the oils is looked upon with a great amount of irritation by their producers.

There are basically two types of Cimande oils--although more are said to exist. These two types of oils may have various appearances, and often, even resembling; however, they are to be differentiated by their purposes and not their looks. The first type is the regular Cimande "balur" oils used for massages, for healing bruises and minor injury cases. The second type helps to heal broken-bones and applied for major muscle injury. It also builds-up invulnerability against sharp-weapons and punches in the user. Some Cimande-oils may be ingested for healing the organs. Cimande-oils may have strong sweet-sourish odors depending on the ingredients used. The Cimande-oil is highly praised by those involved in martial-arts and contact-sports.

Minyak Kesambi and Minyak Banyu Urip
The "Banyu Urip" and Kesambi oils are names of products given by their adept-producer. These oils are extracted from the sap of certain trees and then empowered with magickal-force. The User only need consume the potions for the powers to begin to take effect in his body. The virtues of the Banyu Urip oil are as follow: it strengthens the bones; it builds-invulnerability against sharp weapons; it causes wounds to heal quickly; it strengthens the skin; it gives magickal protection against negative entities and forces; it increases one's personal magnetism; it gives one "sabda siddhi" or it causes one's words to have power; it increases psychic sensitivity, etc. The Kesambi oil is a class more powerful than the Banyu Urip--aside from invulnerability against sharp weapons, it also makes one invulnerable against bullets. The consumption of 7 bottles of either one of the oils gives long-lasting permanent effects of the powers.

Minyak Bintang
This oil is one of the most mysterious. It originates with the Dayak Benuaq and Tujung tribes of Kalimantan. In their dialect they call it Olaau Bintaakng, "Minyak Bintang," or "Star-oil." This fluid can properly be said to be the "elixir of life" as it possesses rejuvenating properties that not only quickens sickly or sluggish bodies, but also has the power, as it is claimed, to revive the dead. Star-oil works in conjunction with certain inner-strength training and powers, which in Indonesian occult circles are called Ilmu Kedigdayaan or Tenaga Dalam. In China these are referred to as Chi Kung. Individuals who have mastered the use of the Star-oil and unfolded their inner strength are believed to be able to quicken their bodies with a new vital life force and awaken themselves from the death-state. In bygone days, while war was still common among the tribes in Kalimantan and even in other parts of Indonesia, there was this competitive search among the warrior caste for occult objects and psycho-physical training that would confer upon their possessors and practitioners invulnerability against weapons and supernormal strength, so as to provide an extra advantage over enemies.

Minyak Kawiyang

Another rare Dayak specialty is Minyak Kawiyang, or "Kawiyang Oil." Some also call it Minyak Sumbulik. According to sources this oil originates in the Kinibalu mountains...

Kawiyang-oil comes in five different types and colors: black, red, green, yellow and white. Each of these is said to have its own special virtues. The black Kawiyang confers invisibility, charisma, authority, and invulnerability to hand weapons; while the red Kawiyang gives an anti-gravity field to the body making it possible to undergo journeys in the quickest time possible. Wide rivers and mountain crevasses are easily crossed with single leaps. The red Kawiyang also gives the ability to command the Jin spirits to assist in physical combat. Green Kawiyang oil has its use in the santet and teluh forms of black magic.

Yellow Kawiyang oil is used for love, attraction, and fascination. No spells and mantras are needed for this. All that is required is to acquire a drop or two with the fingertips and to apply them in the palms. The two palms are then rubbed together. After this all that one has to do is to touch with one's hands and fingers the subject that we wish to fascinate--perhaps as in a handshake.

Riches and wealth may be acquired with the utilization of the white Kawiyang oil. This is one of the magical oils mostly pursued...

http://www.indotalisman.com/oils.html

Shibumi · 06-10-2006, 01:35 PM

no way in hell! I suppose that one poor bastrd has to go through again during the next cycle

stabbychick · 06-10-2006, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aseepish

I saw this on the Singaporean version of Mythbusters - it's really lemon juice mixed with oil. The lemon juice boils at a much lower temperature, alowing the "mystic" to dip his body parts into it.

Just out of curiosity, I tried to look up the boiling point of lemon juice... the search netted mostly recipes, but I did find this:

"I am doing a science fair project on what impurities affect the boiling point of water. I am wondering what impurities can lower the boiling point of water. Salt, Sugar, Lemon Juice, and Baking soda all make it go higher but none of them make it go lower."
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem03005.htm

So it brings the BP of oil down, but raises it in water... interesting... either way, THAT SHIT IS CRAZY!!!

Hey Garland, wanna try and experiment?

You can tell us which method of basting is better. One day when you're bored (say, a Friday night in Utah) you can try this instead of sticking your

in a lightsocket!

BTW Tant01, thanks for the info! A lot of that sounds like internal and external dit-da-jows.

Tant01 · 06-10-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabbychick

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BTW Tant01, thanks for the info! A lot of that sounds like internal and external dit-da-jows. ....

Imagine THAT!!....

LOL

Can I interest you in a potion to ensure your husband stays faithful? It will cause impotence if he tries to mess around with Canadian women.

There is an oil to increase size and performance as well...

Try that with Dit-da-jow??? LOL

stabbychick · 06-10-2006, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tant01

Can I interest you in a potion to ensure your husband stays faithful? It will cause impotence if he tries to mess around with Canadian women.

There is an oil to increase size and performance as well...

Try that with Dit-da-jow??? LOL

But does it work?

Actually, I'm pretty sure there are Chinese formulas for the latter but I don't want anything to do with the first one, regardless of Canadian booty! Impotence?!?! He might be sharin' it, but what would I do if there was none for me?

**Garland** · 06-10-2006, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabbychick

Hey Garland, wanna try and experiment?

You can tell us which method of basting is better. One day when you're bored (say, a Friday night in Utah) you can try this instead of sticking your

in a lightsocket!

Hardy har har...you and boarspear telling jokes at my expense again???
Actually, on a related note, a guy that worked at our restaurant stuck his hand up to his elbow in the deep frier...and immediatly doused the burn with fish sauce and got some sort of balm from the thai temple....no burn scar. No shit. I seen it.

Tant01 · 06-10-2006, 04:39 PM

THAT'S some powerful MAGICK!!!

Stupidity induced injuries are comon in the restraunt industry! I used to be a professional.

aseepish · 06-11-2006, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabbychick

So it brings the BP of oil down, but raises it in water... interesting... either way, THAT SHIT IS CRAZY!!!

It's not the oil that boils, but the lemon juice. The oil floats on top of the juice and heats up at a much slower rate. Something like that, anyways. It was about six years ago that I saw this.

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Garland Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,265 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts	Why GOD WHY???! Okay...what the hell type of silat is this? I've heard of hardcore training, but this is freakin' ridiculous! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27280948015427 __________________ homo homini lupus

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Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,934 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	I'll just sit here for an hour waiting for my stupid computer to play 6 minutes of video.... NOT. I might be able to answer if you TELL me what's on the tape? __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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aseepish Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: British Columbia Posts: 1,754 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I saw this on the Singaporean version of Mythbusters - it's really lemon juice mixed with oil. The lemon juice boils at a much lower temperature, alowing the "mystic" to dip his body parts into it. __________________ "It was about that time I realized that searching was my symbol, the emblem of those who go out at night with nothing in mind, the motives of a destroyer of compasses." -Cortázar

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Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,934 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	That's good because oil will reach it's flash point before it boils unless there is something in it to cook. __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,934 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	"oils" MAGICKAL OILS OF INDONESIAN SHAMANISM Introduction Almost every shamanic and pagan culture has its own collection of oils used for occult and magickal purposes. In this article we will describe a few of these "minyak" (as oils are called in the Indonesian/Malayan tongue) to be found in the Indonesian archipelago... Minyak Cimande Among martial-artists of Pencak Silat in Java, Indonesia, the Cimande (pronounced: Chee-Mun-Day) oil is quite famed for its power of invulnerability and its ability to assist the healing of broken bones, bruises, wounds, muscle-pull, twisted ligaments, etc. The physical formula and appearance of the Cimande oil may vary from one shaman producer to another, but the magickal power permeating them as empowered by these producers, are the same. Some of the ingredients of the Cimande oil are scarce and not easily obtainable, therefore occasionally, the producers of the Cimande oils have to make do with what is available and use the best substitutes--this also contributes to the different appearances from one stock to another even by the same producer. There are many of these Cimande oils sold in traditional markets but not all are genuine--most have been diluted by their resellers to make more profit, so one has to exercise caution when purchasing them. The reseller's practice of cutting the oils is looked upon with a great amount of irritation by their producers. There are basically two types of Cimande oils--although more are said to exist. These two types of oils may have various appearances, and often, even resembling; however, they are to be differentiated by their purposes and not their looks. The first type is the regular Cimande "balur" oils used for massages, for healing bruises and minor injury cases. The second type helps to heal broken-bones and applied for major muscle injury. It also builds-up invulnerability against sharp-weapons and punches in the user. Some Cimande-oils may be ingested for healing the organs. Cimande-oils may have strong sweet-sourish odors depending on the ingredients used. The Cimande-oil is highly praised by those involved in martial-arts and contact-sports. Minyak Kesambi and Minyak Banyu Urip The "Banyu Urip" and Kesambi oils are names of products given by their adept-producer. These oils are extracted from the sap of certain trees and then empowered with magickal-force. The User only need consume the potions for the powers to begin to take effect in his body. The virtues of the Banyu Urip oil are as follow: it strengthens the bones; it builds-invulnerability against sharp weapons; it causes wounds to heal quickly; it strengthens the skin; it gives magickal protection against negative entities and forces; it increases one's personal magnetism; it gives one "sabda siddhi" or it causes one's words to have power; it increases psychic sensitivity, etc. The Kesambi oil is a class more powerful than the Banyu Urip--aside from invulnerability against sharp weapons, it also makes one invulnerable against bullets. The consumption of 7 bottles of either one of the oils gives long-lasting permanent effects of the powers. Minyak Bintang This oil is one of the most mysterious. It originates with the Dayak Benuaq and Tujung tribes of Kalimantan. In their dialect they call it Olaau Bintaakng, "Minyak Bintang," or "Star-oil." This fluid can properly be said to be the "elixir of life" as it possesses rejuvenating properties that not only quickens sickly or sluggish bodies, but also has the power, as it is claimed, to revive the dead. Star-oil works in conjunction with certain inner-strength training and powers, which in Indonesian occult circles are called Ilmu Kedigdayaan or Tenaga Dalam. In China these are referred to as Chi Kung. Individuals who have mastered the use of the Star-oil and unfolded their inner strength are believed to be able to quicken their bodies with a new vital life force and awaken themselves from the death-state. In bygone days, while war was still common among the tribes in Kalimantan and even in other parts of Indonesia, there was this competitive search among the warrior caste for occult objects and psycho-physical training that would confer upon their possessors and practitioners invulnerability against weapons and supernormal strength, so as to provide an extra advantage over enemies. *Minyak Kawiyang* Another rare Dayak specialty is Minyak Kawiyang, or "Kawiyang Oil." Some also call it Minyak Sumbulik. According to sources this oil originates in the Kinibalu mountains... Kawiyang-oil comes in five different types and colors: black, red, green, yellow and white. Each of these is said to have its own special virtues. The black Kawiyang confers invisibility, charisma, authority, and invulnerability to hand weapons; while the red Kawiyang gives an anti-gravity field to the body making it possible to undergo journeys in the quickest time possible. Wide rivers and mountain crevasses are easily crossed with single leaps. The red Kawiyang also gives the ability to command the Jin spirits to assist in physical combat. Green Kawiyang oil has its use in the santet and teluh forms of black magic. Yellow Kawiyang oil is used for love, attraction, and fascination. No spells and mantras are needed for this. All that is required is to acquire a drop or two with the fingertips and to apply them in the palms. The two palms are then rubbed together. After this all that one has to do is to touch with one's hands and fingers the subject that we wish to fascinate--perhaps as in a handshake. Riches and wealth may be acquired with the utilization of the white Kawiyang oil. This is one of the magical oils mostly pursued... http://www.indotalisman.com/oils.html __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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Shibumi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 42 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	no way in hell! I suppose that one poor bastrd has to go through again during the next cycle

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Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,934 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	THAT'S some powerful MAGICK!!! Stupidity induced injuries are comon in the restraunt industry! I used to be a professional. __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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