Tee Sok

Hanumana2000,

I tried to find some info on the net about Maori armed and unarmed MA but could find very, very little. I posted a post on the Philipino MA forum but l should have done it on this one.
I found your previous posts on Maori MA and would like to ask you if you could post more infos about them (Maori stick techniques or unarmed combat).
I got interested in these and in Maori culture in general after having seen Once were Warriors.

Thank you very much!

William

Hi Tee Sok,

I tried getting Humana to re-appear a while back but to no avail. I don't know if he frequents the boards any more. If I remember correctly, he is very knowledgeable on Polynesian MA's. I seem to remember him talking about writing a book on the subject (but I could be mistaken).


William

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Tee Sok

Thanks for your help William, I appreciate.

Did you see these new posts? They are quite interesting:

Maori MA

eXcessiveForce

Are you talking about, haumana2000?


I don't know if he posts much anymore but I have a feeling he's still around. Try sending him a PM perhaps. He may not have seen this thread

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Tee Sok

Yes I meant Haumana, not Hanumana. Got confused with the Thai name 'Hanuman'. Thanks

William

Thank you for the link Tee Sok. Very interesting.



William

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haumana2000

Hello guys. Sorry I have taken so long to respond, as I have been travelling quite a bit. As for the name Haumana it is the Hawaiian term for Student/Deciple. The unarmed arts of the Maori are termed Mamau or Rongomamau. They are similar in design and appearance to Hawaiian Lua as the two schools of Dr. Pita Sharples of Aotearoa, and the group Pa' kui'a'lua of Hawaii have shared a great deal of inter-island knowledge and conduct regular kokua (sharing) sessions. Mamau is wrestling and there are two bothers timoti and jason pahi that compete in New Zealand NHB utilizing the traditional methods. If I remember right there is a female style of wreslting that uses almost all leg holds and maneauvers as well, but I know little of it. The stickfighting methods are very effective and they do conduct sparring called ririwatea or free-fighting with the taiaha or rakau. much power is deleivered utlizing a particilaur method of deleivery for power ( and it has been a long time so I could be wrong called wawae takahia or foot stomp on delivery at the same time as the end of the stick is swung around the back. There are different syles of maori martial arts however, and each school represents a different flavor. Some concentrate on Patu or mere clubs more than others, some strictly on taiaha, and some schools propagate the performing arts aspect more than others which is where I traditionally began my knowledge as I run a large Pacific Island group here in the states and grew up dancing with Hula, and Haka. Most of what people see is this strain, and the accompanying protocol called mistakenly the "wero" or challenge but since this can only be performed on the marae as part of welcome protocol, it would be more of a demonstration. I admit that though I know more than a few about these rare arts, it is a miniscule amount in comparison to more qualified individuals out there. But many of the older kamataua (elders) will not share their information freely.
At any rate, good luck and feel free to ask more questions. There is a great movie called broken english that has modern usage in a fight against some croation immigrants who are looking to beat up a maori who is dating their family member. very cool.

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Tee Sok

Haumana,

thank you for these infos. Now I am even more interested in Maori MA. I have more technical questions but as such they are difficult to describe with words only. Great info on the stick fighting, it looks interesting.
I'd love to go to NZ to see the real thing but I want to concentrate on other
systems. Also money and time are not enough for a lengthy stay there. Do you know if there are teachers in Europe?

I will check Broken English, it's really difficult to see videos of Maori MA!

Thank you.

William

Haumana,

Keeping things interesting around here as usual. I'll see if I can locate a copy of that movie as well. I'm interested in seeing a glimpse of Maori MA's and culture.


William

PS: We came very close to moving to NZ a number of years ago. I had done a lot of reading up on the country at that time and was very interested in the Maori culture.

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All you need is love........and a sharp blade.....a hardwood flat stick......Oh, oh, oh and a Paraordinance lda 14.45 loaded with 230 grain hydra shocks,ranger SXT's or golden sabres