BaguaBoxer

I don't understand how so many people in Martial Arts bash Kung Fu. Why don't more people take the time to learn it. Or does it take to long is the American "I want it now" attitude taking over martial arts even. If it takes awhile, like 20 years to become prficient in Tai Chi, then get off your a$$ and try. Don't go "Its fake, thats not possible." just because you don't have the discipline or brass tacks to learn it. All styles have good points and bad points. It's the balance Yin and Yang that is found in all life. My ultimate point is If you haven't done it or tried it the how can you criticize it. Answer simple you can't. And just because you can't do something doesn't mean somebody else can't.


Yeah Kung Fu

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jubaji

Good job with the pointless bullshit on your very first try!

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Jeremy Lobdell

I agree 100%, but americans don't have the patent on the "I want it now" attitude. That's found pretty much everywhere! Making statements like that is exactly what you're trying to fight when you defend your art!

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m.artist

There's a difference between someone saying "kung fu is good you should try it, while someone responds and says "it sucks" and someone says "kung fu is best, it beats everything else, and nothing can beat real kung fu" while someone responds "dude you are on so much crack it's seeping out of your ears"
so you've got to make sure you know the difference between those who cap on it, and those who tell it like it is

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Ironpalm

Hey BaguaBoxer...Nice post, Just hope you don't have that name on your car or anything.

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Hardball

I believe the author of this thread should have been more specific in what he/she is venting about. I.E. Northern kung fu or Southern kung fu? Wing Chun or Shaolin, Ving Tsun version or Wu Shu? I agree that kung fu is a excellent and profient system but you gotta be more specific about your gripes. For instance Bruce Lee critizized wing chun as being overly complicated and he developed the more simple Jeet Kune Do. I'm new to this site also and I can tell you that "You ain't gonna pull nothing over on the readers of these threads; these guys are real!"

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Tom Yum

Hey baguaboxer, i think it comes down to what you want out of your martial arts. If you live in a friendly, isolated part of the world why not pick up taiji? Its awesome for relaxation, balance and clearness of mind. I know nothing of its combat effectiveness, because I've never seen it.

The 'iwantitnow' attitude exists for a reason, because people want to learn how to defend themselves now, not 20 years later.

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BaguaBoxer

First of all most of the kung fu in the phone book today will not help you survive. Second if you can find a truely peaceful part of the world please show it to me. Next Tai Chi is very effective in combat if trained correctly...good luck easily finding a competent instructor. The relaxed forms for Tai Chi are to teach you not to lock up in a fight this steals your power and helps your opponent. Tai Chi uses explosive power and if you have ever been hit by a Tai Chi practitioner you will believe this. It doesn't take 20 years to defend yourself with Tai Chi it is just a farce that people call themselves masters after 5. Even if all you did was study Tai Chi and nothing else 5 years is a drop in the bucket. Just like Karate schools had out Black Belts to 9 year old kids but Black Belt means you can generate lethal force. I have yet to meet a 9 year old that can kill me with a couple of punches or kicks. As in any art it takes years if not decades to master it ,forms are just a guide line. If studying forms and memorizing them makes you a master hell we all would be. If all you want is a belt color go for it. But real karate master know that learning and training never stop and there are no belts. The work you put in is the work you get out. And I would like to apologize for throwing the "American Laziness" comment in there. I was on a rant. Latley it seems the whole world has become complacent. But for some reason people in the MMA world feel kung fu is not effective even though it cover grappling ,punching (which doesen't seem to be prevelent in most MMA matches) ,ground fighting ,submissions ,and locks. I think the problem is humans as a whole look for what is commercialized and easy to find. But if everyone is doing style A and I jump in the ring with style B the suprise is enough to give me an edge. Spartacus beat the Romans by using tactics not like the Legions he didn't lose till he fought the same way they did.

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Hardball

Ever heard of "Chin Na" It's the grappling portion of kung fu only taught to true disciples.

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BaguaBoxer

I actually though i had mentioned that in my last post if not by name but yes I have heard I only wonder why more people don't post it as there style in MMA and hey I guess there's more of us true disciples than I thought. Look people I'm not trying to be an a$$ and I'm not knocking anyones styles hell I own "KILL and KILL AGAIN" I love all martial arts all fighting all styles I just don't understand why Kung Fu isn't in the MMA spotlight as much as kickboxing or BJJ I have sampled alot of styles but I just feel Kung Fu taste the best. Other peoples pallets may vary. Kung Fu just gets knocked on a bit because it uses diffrent body muscles and skills to fight. I'm positive even though I have been studying for a 5 years that people in other styles that have put there time in could kick my a$$ I'm not superman I admit I can be beaten. But I don't admit it till I've lost. There is no ultimate style I just want Kung Fu to get more props because it gets less than it deserves

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Hardball

There is a lot of "Secrecy" in kung fu. The instructors are not always willing to give up knowledge.

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jubaji

"only taught to true disciples"

LOL

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BaguaBoxer

Actually lately alot of the secrecy is fadding because the art is losing itself because it is not being passed on. People are getting in trouble for passing the arts along to non-fami8ly members but it will survive.

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jubaji

Good job anyway!

LOL

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BaguaBoxer

Jubaji I'm glad to know that smarta$$ comments are a martial arts style because that seems to be your expertise I'd rather this not turn into a fith grade p--sing comtest so please either contribute even if you don't agree with everyone or anyone or keep the kid stuff on another thread.

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