The big question

jrtumbiolo · 08-09-2003, 03:55 PM

I am a police officer in NY. I would like to start training in a martial art that is primarily grappling, locks, pinning, etc. What is the best style? I have heard of JuJitsu and Aikido. Is one better than the other for me? What is the difference between them?

I have no clue where to start and am looking forward to any responses. Thanks.

Grape_Ape · 08-09-2003, 03:59 PM

Judo is fairly good for that and it's popular among Police and fire departments. If you really want more grappling you probably can't beat BJJ.

Grape_Ape · 08-09-2003, 04:02 PM

As for Aikido. I would stay away. There's no grappling to speak of and it's rather difficult to use in actual situations.

jrtumbiolo · 08-09-2003, 08:26 PM

BJJ?

Is that a form of JuJitsu? I do have a Shingitai JuJitsu Dojo in the city I work for. What does this type of JuJitsu consists of?

**Thai Bri** · 08-09-2003, 08:32 PM

www.allinfighting.com

One of your fellow NYPD guys trains here. It is brutal. No flashy twisty wristy silliness. Most arts contain far far more techniques than they need, to the point of being detrimental to your chances of surviving a real fight. This doesn't.

jcolvin · 08-11-2003, 11:25 AM

Whatever you chose make sure it makes you well rounded as a practioner. A couple of the guys mention that an art lacks ground work. In my opinion this just as important as the trapping skills you mentioned, because you don't want to panic if you are on the ground, so I would look at something that balanced you and then further compliment that art with what you like.

Szczepankiewicz · 08-11-2003, 11:29 AM

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As for Aikido. I would stay away. There's no grappling to speak of

What? Is this the same Aikido that Ueshiba spawned? NO grappling????

You're kidding right?

lssanjose · 08-11-2003, 11:42 AM

People tend to get ground fighting and grappling a little mixed up. Grappling implies simply grappling or getting a hold on something. Usually means locking on. Aikido has that and plenty of it too. Now i'm just saying it has locks, not discussing the effectiveness of it, which i know many put into question

Half-Asleep · 08-21-2003, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by jrtumbiolo
BJJ?

Is that a form of JuJitsu? I do have a Shingitai JuJitsu Dojo in the city I work for. What does this type of JuJitsu consists of?

its brazilian ju jitsu i assume

i reckon' most likely do ju jitsu of some form if u can i think brazilian would be a good choise. Aikido maybe but prolly best bet go for ju jitsu its efficient and one u get the whole moving your whole body to move the opponents body thing its easier.

jrtumbiolo · 08-21-2003, 11:07 PM

Thanks alot for everyones input.

I have applied to a school to get some training in Shingitai JuJitsu. The only style JuJitsu I have found in my city.

After to listening to everyone, looking at other forums, and doin some research I feel this is the best for me and assist me in my career.

I appreciate all your help. Thanks.

RobertG · 08-21-2003, 11:26 PM

http://web.utk.edu/~utmaclub/jjhistory.html

There's a link on Shingitai. Its actually an American hybrid Judo style. It sounds fairly reasonable actually. Its basically judo with TKD/Karate and Sambo thrown in. So it actually sounds as if it has a well rounded approach. Have fun training.

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08-09-2003, 03:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Grape_Ape Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 87	Judo is fairly good for that and it's popular among Police and fire departments. If you really want more grappling you probably can't beat BJJ.

08-09-2003, 04:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Grape_Ape Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 87	As for Aikido. I would stay away. There's no grappling to speak of and it's rather difficult to use in actual situations.

08-09-2003, 08:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
jrtumbiolo Novice Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3	BJJ? Is that a form of JuJitsu? I do have a Shingitai JuJitsu Dojo in the city I work for. What does this type of JuJitsu consists of?

08-09-2003, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	www.allinfighting.com One of your fellow NYPD guys trains here. It is brutal. No flashy twisty wristy silliness. Most arts contain far far more techniques than they need, to the point of being detrimental to your chances of surviving a real fight. This doesn't.

08-11-2003, 11:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
jcolvin Novice Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 108	Whatever you chose make sure it makes you well rounded as a practioner. A couple of the guys mention that an art lacks ground work. In my opinion this just as important as the trapping skills you mentioned, because you don't want to panic if you are on the ground, so I would look at something that balanced you and then further compliment that art with what you like.

08-11-2003, 11:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
lssanjose Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 145	People tend to get ground fighting and grappling a little mixed up. Grappling implies simply grappling or getting a hold on something. Usually means locking on. Aikido has that and plenty of it too. Now i'm just saying it has locks, not discussing the effectiveness of it, which i know many put into question

08-21-2003, 11:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
jrtumbiolo Novice Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3	Thanks alot for everyones input. I have applied to a school to get some training in Shingitai JuJitsu. The only style JuJitsu I have found in my city. After to listening to everyone, looking at other forums, and doin some research I feel this is the best for me and assist me in my career. I appreciate all your help. Thanks.

08-21-2003, 11:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
RobertG Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 369	http://web.utk.edu/~utmaclub/jjhistory.html There's a link on Shingitai. Its actually an American hybrid Judo style. It sounds fairly reasonable actually. Its basically judo with TKD/Karate and Sambo thrown in. So it actually sounds as if it has a well rounded approach. Have fun training.

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