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m.artist · 01-13-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Thai Bri

Because most TJJ is as useless as Aikido.

tjj maybe useless(i dunno really) but i know for a 100% fact that aikido isn't and if i had the opportunity to study it i would be there in a hearbeat.....not to a mcdojo though of course....in japan

chris davis 200 · 01-13-2004, 10:29 AM

Not all TJJ is Useless.

Not all Aikido is good. Some is pants - some is more realistic. As with anythin it depends.

chris

m.artist · 01-13-2004, 10:55 AM

that's very true

Strepto · 01-13-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by simonp

We are publishing a highly illustrated introductory guide to Aikido, and I would like to find a consultant who can review the text and step-by-step photography for technical accuracy and applicability for Aikido practitioners in (A) the USA, and one for (B) the UK and (if possible) the rest of Europe. The book will be published in Europe, the N America, Australasia and SE Asia.

I would much appreciate it if you could recommend someone who could take on this consultancy. I'm looking for someone who, ideally, is an experienced practitioner themselves, has experience of training, and also some experience of writing / editorial work about Aikido.

plse contact me on simonp@nhpub.co.uk
Simon Pooley
New Holland Publishers (UK) Ltd

Try asking on the forum at www.aikiweb.com. There's a whole bunch of pretty experienced aikidoka out there. Some of them wrote big papers on aikido.

Uber_Tap · 01-16-2004, 01:06 AM

I don't know a lot about Aikido, and I'm not trying to hate on anyones style, but it just doens't look effective to me. My question to any experienced aikido guy is how do they deal with the straight ahead piston punching attack most common in street scenario's? From the demoes and things I've seen the attacks are always unrealistic single sweeping techniques instead of a true flurry of punches. Again, not trying to smash aikido or anything, just curious.

chris davis 200 · 01-16-2004, 05:24 AM

Although i am not an aikido ka - i have seen this addressed by a top shihan.

Basically he got someone to do this type of attack (non aikidoka - Maybe Karate or boxer cant remember - but he attacked with boxing style punches) and the guy really went for it, the shihan turned around him as he charged (kinda like a matador) grabbed the guys shoulders (or hair i cant recall) and threw him on his ass.

Your right you dont see this type of realistic attack much in Aikido, which i think is a big mistake. But the body movment in Aikido is fairly effective.

The turning etc is quite different from the "the guy is in front of me so i will attack straight ahead" approach you see in many arts.

just some thoughts

Chris Davis

zeno44 · 01-16-2004, 08:44 PM

First off, if you are going to train Aikido DEFINITELY do Yoshinkan. I lived in Japan for years and Yoshinkan is highly respected. They still train the Japanese riot police.

Aikido is a great art for buddhists and those who want a meditative type martial art. The work outs aren't very strenous (except Yoshinkan), so if you're looking for a work out, this ain't it. Aikido can be effective, but obviously there is NO striking involved. The way aikido works you can't really spar thus the work with an uke. I personally am not a fan of working with someone who is not really trying to come at me and who knows what move I'm going to throw at him. That works for awhile, but it can't be the only thing you do. A good uke really does come at you, but it is rare to find a school that is that good. Aikido also takes many, many years to become very effective in. Once you are effective it is a great defensive art, but it just isn't the quickest way to get there.

As a supplement to your other art, maybe it is a good idea, but if you're doing BJJ I would look into something totally different.

JKD-Escrima · 01-17-2004, 05:49 AM

since when does Aikido not have strikes?
ever heard of atema? (spelling?)

01-13-2004, 10:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
m.artist Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 919 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	that's very true __________________ "Before you open your mouth to speak, please make sure it's an improvement upon the silence."

01-16-2004, 08:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
zeno44 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 8 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	the Real Deal on Aikido First off, if you are going to train Aikido DEFINITELY do Yoshinkan. I lived in Japan for years and Yoshinkan is highly respected. They still train the Japanese riot police. Aikido is a great art for buddhists and those who want a meditative type martial art. The work outs aren't very strenous (except Yoshinkan), so if you're looking for a work out, this ain't it. Aikido can be effective, but obviously there is NO striking involved. The way aikido works you can't really spar thus the work with an uke. I personally am not a fan of working with someone who is not really trying to come at me and who knows what move I'm going to throw at him. That works for awhile, but it can't be the only thing you do. A good uke really does come at you, but it is rare to find a school that is that good. Aikido also takes many, many years to become very effective in. Once you are effective it is a great defensive art, but it just isn't the quickest way to get there. As a supplement to your other art, maybe it is a good idea, but if you're doing BJJ I would look into something totally different.

01-17-2004, 05:49 AM	#23 (permalink)
JKD-Escrima Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	since when does Aikido not have strikes? ever heard of atema? (spelling?) __________________ gusto isa bajo nobya

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01-13-2004, 10:29 AM	#17 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not all TJJ is Useless. Not all Aikido is good. Some is pants - some is more realistic. As with anythin it depends. chris

01-16-2004, 01:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Uber_Tap Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 142 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't know a lot about Aikido, and I'm not trying to hate on anyones style, but it just doens't look effective to me. My question to any experienced aikido guy is how do they deal with the straight ahead piston punching attack most common in street scenario's? From the demoes and things I've seen the attacks are always unrealistic single sweeping techniques instead of a true flurry of punches. Again, not trying to smash aikido or anything, just curious.

01-16-2004, 05:24 AM	#21 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Although i am not an aikido ka - i have seen this addressed by a top shihan. Basically he got someone to do this type of attack (non aikidoka - Maybe Karate or boxer cant remember - but he attacked with boxing style punches) and the guy really went for it, the shihan turned around him as he charged (kinda like a matador) grabbed the guys shoulders (or hair i cant recall) and threw him on his ass. Your right you dont see this type of realistic attack much in Aikido, which i think is a big mistake. But the body movment in Aikido is fairly effective. The turning etc is quite different from the "the guy is in front of me so i will attack straight ahead" approach you see in many arts. just some thoughts Chris Davis

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