Aikido

BadgerFu57 · 12-20-2003, 01:07 PM

I have had a growing interest in Aikido (I am looking for a second martial art to supplement BJJ) and a guy in my class loaned me a video of a demonstration in Seattle. The moves looked so graceful that they seemed to be choreographed. It seemed as if uke wasn't applying any resistance, and if they were, it was only to benefit Tori. Does anyone have personal experience with Aikido? Any comments or suggestions?

**Thai Bri** · 12-21-2003, 02:19 AM

Two of my brothers in law are black belts. I'd say you're initial assessment was spot on. Supplement BJJ with a striking art for a better overall effective fighting system.

chris davis 200 · 12-21-2003, 12:27 PM

The only Aikido style that i would recomend for defence skill is Yoshinkan. the training can be tough and they are generally - less co-opperative as uke.

But again it is lacking is some areas - i think that mixing it with some BJJ could do nothing but aid in your overall effectiveness.

Cheers
Chris

bvermillion · 12-23-2003, 01:16 PM

I would just reccommend finding a school that taught standup and grappling and then you dont have to full with the two different schools or extra money. I train at a TKD school but we also learn to fight in the clinch, grapple, weapons training, and practical self defense.

jubaji · 12-23-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BadgerFu57

I have had a growing interest in Aikido

Hey! Put that thing away!

HAKIM82 · 12-31-2003, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chris davis 200

The only Aikido style that i would recomend for defence skill is Yoshinkan. the training can be tough and they are generally - less co-opperative as uke.

But again it is lacking is some areas - i think that mixing it with some BJJ could do nothing but aid in your overall effectiveness.

Cheers
Chris

I often asked myself the same questions about the effectiveness of aikido especially for the beginners ( students of 2 years or less). Does Yoshinkan defend against the left jab, right cross, uppercut , tackle, elbow and knee strike. I never see anything but these half hearted sword like strikes and not with any resistance from the uke. Simply put : Do they keep it real?

jules · 12-31-2003, 03:47 AM

dude, i am not a real fan of Aikido but come on. Does BJJ train for punches? Most of the time NO. Does MT defend against any kind of take down?

seeker · 12-31-2003, 06:25 AM

I´d say Aikido is worth trying.
I did it for a couple of years and it was benefitial to me. It takes time and concentration to learn (which I did not have at the age I did it), but it is effective in the end.
Try it, but keep trying for at least 1-2years before giving up or it is pretty useless with the western training amounts.

matthewkemp · 12-31-2003, 10:51 AM

In aikido practise the uke doesnt give much resistance to allow the technique to be performed. many people forget that aikido also teaches "atemi" which are striking techniques which will naturally loosen up the opponent in a real fight, enableing you to throw them or restrain them.

I seriously reccomend aikido to anyone

simonp · 01-09-2004, 12:29 PM

We are publishing a highly illustrated introductory guide to Aikido, and I would like to find a consultant who can review the text and step-by-step photography for technical accuracy and applicability for Aikido practitioners in (A) the USA, and one for (B) the UK and (if possible) the rest of Europe. The book will be published in Europe, the N America, Australasia and SE Asia.

I would much appreciate it if you could recommend someone who could take on this consultancy. I'm looking for someone who, ideally, is an experienced practitioner themselves, has experience of training, and also some experience of writing / editorial work about Aikido.

plse contact me on simonp@nhpub.co.uk
Simon Pooley
New Holland Publishers (UK) Ltd

JKD-Escrima · 01-11-2004, 12:40 AM

The hardest part about Aikido in my experiences is finding an instructor who is open to discussion. Most are older Japanese men who are stuck in their ways and do things "the way they've always been". It is a good art, and I use the joint locks in my Escrima sometimes during weapons removal. The footwork is pretty good, and overall the system is a decent base. Too indirect to be used as a stand alone system, but it can be a powerfull weapon in your arsenal. You could use Aikido to get your opponent on the ground, and use BJJ to finish him.

m.artist · 01-11-2004, 01:08 PM

sweet combo...but why not just us tjj instead of always bjj?

**Thai Bri** · 01-11-2004, 03:34 PM

Because most TJJ is as useless as Aikido.

matthewkemp · 01-12-2004, 04:05 PM

pardon my ignorance but what is TJJ and what does it stand for?
im guessing its something like brazillian ju jitsu

chris davis 200 · 01-13-2004, 04:17 AM

Yeh TJJ is Traditional Ju Jutsu.

12-20-2003, 01:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
BadgerFu57 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 437	Aikido I have had a growing interest in Aikido (I am looking for a second martial art to supplement BJJ) and a guy in my class loaned me a video of a demonstration in Seattle. The moves looked so graceful that they seemed to be choreographed. It seemed as if uke wasn't applying any resistance, and if they were, it was only to benefit Tori. Does anyone have personal experience with Aikido? Any comments or suggestions? __________________ Kodoku So Tsuyoya Ni Kaete

01-09-2004, 12:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
simonp Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1	Looking for Aikido expert We are publishing a highly illustrated introductory guide to Aikido, and I would like to find a consultant who can review the text and step-by-step photography for technical accuracy and applicability for Aikido practitioners in (A) the USA, and one for (B) the UK and (if possible) the rest of Europe. The book will be published in Europe, the N America, Australasia and SE Asia. I would much appreciate it if you could recommend someone who could take on this consultancy. I'm looking for someone who, ideally, is an experienced practitioner themselves, has experience of training, and also some experience of writing / editorial work about Aikido. plse contact me on simonp@nhpub.co.uk Simon Pooley New Holland Publishers (UK) Ltd

01-11-2004, 12:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
JKD-Escrima Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 74	The hardest part about Aikido in my experiences is finding an instructor who is open to discussion. Most are older Japanese men who are stuck in their ways and do things "the way they've always been". It is a good art, and I use the joint locks in my Escrima sometimes during weapons removal. The footwork is pretty good, and overall the system is a decent base. Too indirect to be used as a stand alone system, but it can be a powerfull weapon in your arsenal. You could use Aikido to get your opponent on the ground, and use BJJ to finish him. __________________ gusto isa bajo nobya

01-11-2004, 01:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
m.artist Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 919	sweet combo...but why not just us tjj instead of always bjj? __________________ "Before you open your mouth to speak, please make sure it's an improvement upon the silence."

01-13-2004, 04:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724	Yeh TJJ is Traditional Ju Jutsu. Last edited by chris davis 200; 01-13-2004 at 04:18 AM. Reason: inaccurate info

12-21-2003, 02:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	Two of my brothers in law are black belts. I'd say you're initial assessment was spot on. Supplement BJJ with a striking art for a better overall effective fighting system.

12-21-2003, 12:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
chris davis 200 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 724	The only Aikido style that i would recomend for defence skill is Yoshinkan. the training can be tough and they are generally - less co-opperative as uke. But again it is lacking is some areas - i think that mixing it with some BJJ could do nothing but aid in your overall effectiveness. Cheers Chris

12-23-2003, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
bvermillion Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Reading, Ma Posts: 312	I would just reccommend finding a school that taught standup and grappling and then you dont have to full with the two different schools or extra money. I train at a TKD school but we also learn to fight in the clinch, grapple, weapons training, and practical self defense.

12-31-2003, 03:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
jules Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 474	dude, i am not a real fan of Aikido but come on. Does BJJ train for punches? Most of the time NO. Does MT defend against any kind of take down?

12-31-2003, 06:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
seeker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 87	I´d say Aikido is worth trying. I did it for a couple of years and it was benefitial to me. It takes time and concentration to learn (which I did not have at the age I did it), but it is effective in the end. Try it, but keep trying for at least 1-2years before giving up or it is pretty useless with the western training amounts.

12-31-2003, 10:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
matthewkemp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 18	In aikido practise the uke doesnt give much resistance to allow the technique to be performed. many people forget that aikido also teaches "atemi" which are striking techniques which will naturally loosen up the opponent in a real fight, enableing you to throw them or restrain them. I seriously reccomend aikido to anyone

01-11-2004, 03:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423	Because most TJJ is as useless as Aikido.

01-12-2004, 04:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
matthewkemp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 18	pardon my ignorance but what is TJJ and what does it stand for? im guessing its something like brazillian ju jitsu

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