darrianation

Uh hah...They will be impressed with the Thai boxers jump knee that just split the head of the NgoChoKun's guy head! Or the clicnh and knees that break his ribs.

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brokenelbow

I said front and side kick, and it's the motion of a down block, not a forearm block. It's really a hammerfist to the foot or thigh.

Don't think block or parry think smacking the foot so it's weak when it sets back down. Also I've been taught to move in at the same time to sweep the other leg. Works so far in sparring, not so well if the opponent is wearing instep guards.

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sherwinc

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Originally Posted by brokenelbow
Hey the down block motion is one of my favorites against front and side kicks.

a Broken Elbow ??????

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darrianation

I like to scoop it. you can trow the foot to the side or lft this way they can't punch you head with any power. In MT I thow their foot to the side and round kick their other leg. In Karate or street I sweep their support leg or tip them to thr ground.

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bvermillion

The best block is to just not be there when the kick is coming.

Thai Bri

Talk about drifting off topic! Haw haw haw!

The tale about the Karate guy and the Thai Boxers is obviously bull shit. How does anyone know they were Thai Boxers? Or were they wearing tell tale T shirts too? Haw haw haw!

No, you cannot block a good class Thai roundhouse with your forearm. You CAN for front and side kicks (though I wouldn't reccomend it as it leaves your head undefended), but not the round kick. You wouldn't be re-directing it at all, and would take the full power on your arm. And, anyway, what Thai Boxer would aim for a rib when there those fat juicy thighs on offer?

MADDOG

Who in their right mind would block an incoming projectile of greater mass and weight = greater momentum –with-a projectile of lesser mass and weight = lesser momentum?

Not me!

My good friend learned this the hard way by attempting to block a front kick with a down block. He proceeded to break his forearm. His analysis of this was that the down block does not work.

He too was mistaken. The down block is to stop a front kick before it ever gets to extension. That is why in most white belt kata’s you step into the block. The problem is that the down block is not being taught properly.

Also blocks are to destroy the attacking limb. A strike is a block – as a block is a strike.
Defang the snake and all that sort of stuff.

Ed Barton

brokenelbow

Right you are Maddog. As for "it leaves your head undefended", only if you do block and then strike type of karate like Thai Bri used to do. The block/parry and the counter should be similtaneous.

Not unless you have done years of conditioning the blocking surface.

Don't take that too literally.

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DrAgOn-T

now granted I don't know anything about karate, but doesn't it make more sense to try and take a step back from a front kick, then step in and commense to beat them to death?

sherwinc

what you did is not deadly.......

against a push kick or thai round kick:
1. defend it using NgoChoKun's Kim to grab opponents uppershinbone, hold his shinbone tightly with both hands then run away very fast while maintaining hold and drag his feet....... your opponent will surely scream to death........

Believe me.........

2. as i always said:
if i break my forearm defending with your kick - i will run for my life.........

but if i break your leg using my forearm and hand - you will surely crawl for your life.........

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brokenelbow

Depends DrAgOn-T, it's a matter of timing, range and opportunity. If you throw a front or side kick and I step back I'm still lined up to give you another shot at me. If I move in outside of the kick I gain some advantage, if I move inside while your leg is still in the air I can take your balance. The hard part is learning how to read your opponent and get the timing down.

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Tom Yum

Good luck catching a thaiboxers shin!

DrAgOn-T

Good point there, shows how much I know about kickboxing. Anyway I have seen my boxing instructor grab a front leg kick and then deck the guy in the chest with a straight right. and in the same fight, I also saw him step back, just far enough to let a roundhouse kick go by then rush back in and start throwing combo's

sherwinc

Good luck also catching a Shaolin/Taoist KungFu's kicking shin!

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Thai Bri

Firstly it is a little hard to simultaneously block a kick and strike, as the leg is longer than the arm. And his upper body is leaning away from you...... It can be done if you step into the attack of course, but that is not what this thread is about.

The well known combination (not that you seem to know it) is for someone to start to throw a front kick AND THEN simultaneously convert it to a round kick. As your li'l old arm waves about (and regardless of any simultaneous strike you throw) the shin takes your head off.

Believe me I know. I am STILL conditioned to throw down blocks no matter how hard I try to rid myself of the curse. Who says any training is better than no training?