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Old 07-19-2004, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, I am thinking about joining a MA mainly for self-defence and fitness. I wanted to join Mauy thai, but I cant find a place that teaches it. I have found a place that teaches a k-1 course that the instructor said was for self defence, and a place that teaches Yoshukai Karate, and some grappling classes. I was just wondering what everybody thinks about Yoshukai Karate being used for self defence. Thanks for the help.
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i've never even heard of it
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Old 07-19-2004, 08:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is a qoute from there website.


The style practiced at this dojo is Japanese Yoshukai Karate and is not to be confused with other North American karate styles that practice "limited contact" fighting. The sparring aspect of the Yoshukai style is full-contact fist, leg and knee striking. This style of martial arts is very similar to Kyokushin Karate. If you are not familiar with either style, Yoshukai Karate is similar to kickboxing. Safety and discretion are always practiced at this dojo.

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yoshukai is great. i have a friend who used to take yoshukai and he developed into a good fighter. i myself take kyokushin karate and muay thai. yoshukai has no katas and focuses a lot on sparring and pad work. ive taken a few classes in yoshukai and they were intense. very good alternative to muay thai if you cant find it in your area
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sounds like a sweet martial art, like a form of karate that would be hard to water down. good stuff.
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yoshukai is great. i have a friend who used to take yoshukai and he developed into a good fighter. i myself take kyokushin karate and muay thai. yoshukai has no katas and focuses a lot on sparring and pad work. ive taken a few classes in yoshukai and they were intense. very good alternative to muay thai if you cant find it in your area
what???? a karate with no kata??????

all karate has kata
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Sherwinc your showing your ignorance again. Yes all karate you know has Kata. You need to know that not everyone likes Kata, someone out there who likes karate but hates kata is probably going to teach it without kata, I've seen it in TKD.
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Sherwinc your showing your ignorance again. Yes all karate you know has Kata. You need to know that not everyone likes Kata, someone out there who likes karate but hates kata is probably going to teach it without kata, I've seen it in TKD.
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i was going to say that
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Which website is that? Ones I went to have kata requirements? I just want to see their overall approach and how they decide to call themselves Karate instead of Kickboxing. Thanks.
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http://www.fullcontactvictoria.com/

Here is the site
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Sherwinc your showing your ignorance again. Yes all karate you know has Kata. You need to know that not everyone likes Kata, someone out there who likes karate but hates kata is probably going to teach it without kata, I've seen it in TKD.
now i know that there are already existence of a Karate without Kata.....
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TKD without kata? suuure
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Are you sure they don't do katas? Just because they do a full-contact doesnt mean they don't do katas. Have you physically visited the dojo and asked the instructors about the issue?

In Karate, usually they teach the "toy katas" before one reach the shodan level. These are not real katas, but sets used to make student practice the routines.

But anyhow, this is not the issue here.

If they teach something similar to kickboxing, wouldn't you be better off taking kickboxing? If you learn to fight a restricted full contact (i.e. limiting punches to the head area), then you will develop neuromuscular reflexes that prohibit you making good attacks to and defending properly of your head area. This could be very dangerous for a self-defense situation. A proper drill, including katas, will properly help you develop these reflexes.

Just my humble opinion.
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Given your goals - fitness and self defence - this sounds like a great form of karate! Go for it!

(But do classes at the grappling places too!)

Sorry - I am biased.

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