CKD

It good to know the combative aspects of tma's are being preserved in former soviet countries. How they ended up preserving the combat aspect of these arts instead of other countries I am not sure. Maybe because they were introduced to traditional arts before they degenerated or because Russian just focus on practical application. But they seem to be keeping the old ways alive and that is good. Here is a video clip of a full contact karate tournament in Russia http://www.woin.ru/video/sor/sor_02.mpeg They have simialar full contact competetions for kung fu and traditional JJ in Russia.

CKD

Here is the advertisment for that video the footage was taken from.
Dzu-dzutsu style fights. Rules of irigumi-go. The most harsh single combats in the world of martial arts. Any strikes with arms, leg and head in full contact as well as throws (including application of force to joints), strangulations and limb hurts are allowed...
Biting,squeezing, ear tearing, and finger breaks are prohibited.
The only protective implements are light covers for the hands that practically do not cushion strikes.
A victory can be achieved by getting an opponent down to the floor or making him surrender.
You will see spectacular moments of fights i.e. finals. The film makes use of film recording Dzu-dzutsu fights. Comments are provided by Tair Narimanov, President of Dzu-dzutsu Federation, international referee dan 4.

HiryuHien

now thats a competition I respect.
being able to utilize all your knowledge
to defeat your opponent.

CKD

Not only are the rules good but they do not look like idiots as in some other clips of tma people doing full contact.

CKD

Here is some info on the style in the clips.

"Mass media do not provide any information on dzyocinmon karate though it is well known in the world. Its founding father Khoshu Ikeda is one of the most reputed master in Japan.
Dzyocinmon was brought to Russia in November 1978 by Raul Riso, a Cuban masteer (dan 5 at the time) who learned it directly from Khoshu Ikeda..."
I am suprised at the lack of responses. Typically clips claiming to show effective tmas get lots of responses. But ussually those clips are of people who suck...... Oh well I guess that this clip showing tmas being used effectively will be remembered.

Toudiyama[NL]

I entered the term Dzu-dzutsu in google and the first link was this one http://www.hitman.host.sk/jujutsu.htm

So is it just the Russian pronounciation of ju jitsu or what

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CKD

That didn't look like a Russian page but of some other laguage. There is a more complete history of the style at www.woin.ru Click on english and martial art competetions. Full conntact jiu-jitsu competitions in Russia are called irumi-go I believe. They attract a lot of different styles.

darrianation

This is not some long lost art or combative application. All the techniques in the clip can be found today. They just don't powder puff em' like many you see in todays MAs.

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chris davis 200

And all the techniques found today can be found in old styles so not sure what you mean really??

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CKD

That is what I mean, they preserve the way the tma's were originally trained with a focus on combat.