holyman

I have seen many books written by ashida kim. I managed to get hold of secrets of the ninja which explains kuji kiri exercises. Are these not dangerous exercises he explains in the book ?

Also he explains how ninja used nunchaku to fight samurai. Do ninja use nunkchau ?

Also a book called Ninja death touch - does this really explain death touch and dim mak or is hoax ??

Broadsword2004

Man the samurai and ninja fought each other and killed each other all throughout Japanese history. I never heard of ninja using nunchuku though, so I wouldn't know. As for death touches and all that, the Samurai had a whole list of pressure points and sensitive areas of the body to strike as well. That stuff wasn't exclusive to the ninja. The Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Filipinos have all that too.

koto_ryu

Ashida Kim is not a real ninja, he just cashed in on the ninja craze back in the 80s by printing out a few books and saying he was a ninja grandmaster. Nor do ninja use nunchaku, as one of our guys who practices in our dojo is sick with a pair but he can never use it before class, only afterwards. Word of advice however: do not **** around with kuji kiri exercises. Call it mumbo jumbo or mystical bullshit, but there's a reason for not fucking around with them unless you've been extensively schooled.

bvermillion

What are Kuji Kiri exercises?

Ikken Hisatsu

Mr Hunter is full of shit. dont buy into it. if you want to know why, look up the thread on bulshido.net where he backs down from the challenge he has on his website like the pussy bitch he is.

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Thai Bri

Is where you fiddle with your fingers. Deadly stuff indeed.

koto_ryu

It's mostly advanced meditative stuff but some of them do influence meridian lines which could bring about negative results if you're not careful.

Thai Bri

Doesn't Oil of Olay get rid of meridian lines?

What a pile of horse shit.

koto_ryu

Acupuncture concentrates solely on the manipulation of acupuncture lines, and something that's been around and used extensively for over several thousand years doesn't seem to be too much "horse shit" to me. Especially considering once I finish my pre-med degree I'm headed to NYCC to major in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine.

Thai Bri

Well, if you're taking courses that you havent passed, that may then lead onto relevant qualifications one day, or may not....... who am I to argue with such expertise?

koto_ryu

And if you're ignorant of such knowledge and cannot even spell "from" correctly in your signature, then yeah I'd say you have no argument Consider this: Western medicine is only a few hundred years old whereas Chinese medicine is a few thousand. Obviously they must have been doing something right. Traditional practitioners may have said it's because it's your Chi or this or that, etc. but modern practitioners know that along these meridian lines (where many pressure points and highly sensitive areas lie) can release a variety of different chemicals into the body, for good or for ill. Combining points (as is often the case, as well as there are also connecting points for other points) release the natural hormones and healing abilities of the body but if done incorrectly can have adverse side effects. I am far from an expert yet, but I do have a few books on the subject and am studying it independently so when I do finish my pre-med program I can have a leg up on the competition.

Thai Bri

A leg up on the competition? You can get arrested for that.

I can picture is now, all you student Doctors being taken around a hospital ward by some eminent Surgeon. He comes to the next patient, diagnoses him with a serious illness, and asks you for an appropriate treatment.

"That's easy, Sir" says you "Just cut off a Tigers balls, ground them into powder, and stick it up his arse every time theres a full moon".

koto_ryu

Actually, many major hospitals are now supporting acupuncturists and those who open up their own clinics often tend to make upwards of $60k a year in their first few years. The population in America alone tends to spend upwards of 45 billion dollars a year on alternative medicine. Here's more details for anyone interested:

http://www.nycc.edu/aom/overview.asp

Thai Bri

I also believe in acupuncture. But that hardly gives credibilty to each and every mystical eastern nonsense out there. Like finger fiddling. And Tiger De-Balling.

koto_ryu

Kuji kiri are more to be used as mudra than anything else, hand configurations that you use during meditative exercises. Some of the more advanced forms however require manipulation of meridian lines and acupuncture points to my knowledge, and shouldn't be performed unless extensively schooled.

Also interesting of note: supposedly Krabi Krabong had meditative exercises with mudra too, meaning all the Muay Thai guys that diss it really ought to stop and think because they're also trashing on their own tradition