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..some aikidoka(!?) could tell me how one would deal with a shoot from a wrestler!!

How would Steven Seagal handle the Tackle?

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Segal would call his lawyer.



An aikidoka had better handle it the same way everyone else does.

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zhorner

he would...grab them by their thumb and the wrestler would magically do a back flip onto his back...and then die.

hahahahaahahahahahahahahaaahahahaha

Levi_athan

Aikidokas usually run away from every fight. Only way to defend against a leg takedown is to keep running away from the wrestler. Now, if you're a judoka, on the other hand, you could either execute the guillotine choke or crucifix lock.

gregimotis

The aikodoka at my school holds a blue belt in BJJ, has fought as an amatuer in savate and student teaches Pekiti Tirsia Kali.

Maybe they aren't all as blind as you think...

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imbestigador

Lookup a technique called Kaiten - nage.

Its very effective against tackles, and will allow you to dispose the attacker
without going down into the ground.

I don't understand it. Aikido (or its parent Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu) was "born" and tested in Japan at a time when Judo and Sumo background was very common for all martial artist. For me, there's no question that Aikido can and will be able to defend against grapplers, shooters.

The only area Aikido has not really proven itself is in against explosive strikers like Muay Thai. Although, in his autobiography, Gozo Shioda has defeated boxers and karatekas.

Oh, and dont turn this thread into a "why can't Aikido win in the UFC" sort of thread.

Levi_athan

MMA isn't aikido. So if your aikido friend has a blue belt in BJJ and teaches Kali, that's all aikido? I'm not saying aikido isn't an effective art, I'm just saying that aikidokas usually tend to NOT fight and just walk/run away. Most of their techniques come from opponents overextending their attack. So I guess I was wrong about a takedown attempt, I was thinking more of a boxing jab.

jubaji

Ok, no 'thing' by itself does anything. Learning techniques doesn't magically give you the ability to pull them off against someone with superior physical skills.

That having been said, I don't think that is a very practical approach to a decent shot. It works great against the drunk guy lunging at you from five feet away.

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imbestigador

Agreed. But 5 feet is a bit too much. The technique will work as long as one can evade. Most aikido techniques are dead if the pracitioner does not have the sense of timing and awareness to evade.

EmptyneSs

i think aikido would be a pretty good art to mix with something else cause theres alot of subtle shit in it that would compliment any system well. almost anything and aikido would be decent. it would boost your agility and balance greately and u will learn to breakfall n shit.

boxing/aikido

aikido/judo

aikido/ muay thai

aikido/ bjj

aikido/ savate

aikido/ wing chun



btw i did aikido for only a few months, but the wrist stretches we learned to do i still use to this day and has allowed my wrists to become so flexible that ive been able to save myself from submitting to many a wristlock in jui jitsu.

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gotta love that "subtle shit" aikido teaches.

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onemanlan

Aikido, or Akibudo, is a philosiphy that happens to be a nice method of self defense.

I'd like it if most people here, which I would hope would be the place, would respect most martial arts for all their good points and not try to pry out the low points of other arts..

Aikido is practiced in my dojo as actual movements to coorespond with an oncoming movements of attackers. They have names, but only for reference to one another, the movement are ment to be practiced so much(if you are a serious practioner) that is sematic memory of the body to react a certain way. In no way should you befocusing on which way you want your opponet to move or attack, you let them move and you flow with their energy to where you direct them.

Aikido is not bad at all, I love it. I'm not an aggressive person, but I enjoy a good fight. The philosiphy has really got a hold of me, I enjoy it the most. I hope to practice Aikido as long as possible, until old age does me in.

It has a lot to teach if you haven't thought into it. There are plenty of older people, who are quite capable of Aikido, look at O'Sensei... An amazing Aikidika. I hope in all ways Aikido can help me become a better person, and to keep me healthy throughout my practice of it.

Just give other art's more though please.


Oh and to answer to topics question, I have learned that in my dojo under a segment we call self-defense, I'll ask my sensei about it.

47MartialMan

Someone in Aikido would probably side-step, or circle step away. I had taken Aikido for a year, and one of the routines was to drill in stepping/footwork. Most of the advance class would have the same stepping/footwork used in the many appplications. Aikido deals with linear attacks, some attacks from multiple opponents are still coming in linear, but from different angles.

The art (Aikido), IMHO, is a good "general defensive" one. But in a "modern" bar room brawl, not as effective as Steven Segal would display it in a movie shot. And Segal is not a average size martial artist, standing over 6ft.

With this I have seen a high-ranking Aikidoist get beat in a bar room. It was a Bar room I was working and a fellow student (high-rank) from the same school.

Last-the art is only as good as the practitioner whom practices it. All arts have benefits.

To become a good fighter, or have grand defense, versitility (more than one study/art) will be the best way/approach.

onemanlan

I find it a bit ironic that the reason one of the highest ranking members in our class even takes Aikido was because of a barroom fight. A massive guy picked him up and slammed him into a table, it caused my sempi to be knocked unconsious. He swears by it that he has never had any problems anymore in bars that he couldn't handle. He's almost a blackbelt now, I trust his judgment.

Its all in how you train, and how you're tought, a lot of what Aikido is taught to me as that even before the fight you should be away from it, and if you end up in a fight, then its too late. I don't train to fight, I train to defend myself if I have to.