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Old 12-31-2005, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question I JUST WANNA know about this MA?

Guys OUt There i just want to know if NINJITSU still exist today because i always hear KARATE.AIKIDO and JUDO But how about NINJITSU?
They say its effective when u take COURSES that related to criminal solving..
and is it true that no more NINJAS want to pass there skills and knowledge to the newbies...I hope not
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ninjitsu still is around today, its just not as widely practiced for obvious reasons. Its not "practical". Tenjitsu, the unarmed fighting in ninjitsu isnt very complex and revolved around quick breaks, joint locks, and throws. There are several schools throughout Japan and a few in America. I dont see a point to taking it though.
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The 28th generation Ninja Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi teaches at his Bunjikan Dojo in Japan. And I think it could be very effective. There is also Stephen K. Hayes. He trained under Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi. He has a few schools in America.
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It can be very effective if taught by the right person.
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That is very true Blitz.
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Oh and yes some good ninjiutsu teachers still "exist" but they are rare. I guess you'd have to say you have to be in the right place at the right time.
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Fist Thx Guys!

Thx For Sharing Ur Ideas About Ninjutsu
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Tenjitsu, the unarmed fighting in ninjitsu isnt very complex and revolved around quick breaks, joint locks, and throws.
These are clearly the words of someone who has only watched and not tried.

It is actually a very scientific and precise art. Complex in it's simplicity.

Get your facts straight. If you don't know, don't say.


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Sorry man, I didnt mean to offend you. Its a matter of opinion. Im a shootfighter (grappling and muay thai). Ive fought a lot of karate, tae kwon do, and one supposed ninjitsu practictioner. A martial arts style doesent really make the fighter, the fighter does. However, other styles are just easier and better for REAL situations.



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http://www.jdsport.com/index.html?di...81-0-0-0-.html

Make sure if you do go to a school, especially a style like this, you dont get screwed over. Authenticity is hard to find today. Most people sell thier styles and say your kids will get better grades BS. Good luck.
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Exclamation Ninjitsu to Me

To me, ninjitsu was an art taught to assassins that served their shogun. If there was anything similar to that MA in the US, it would be like the marines. Just sign up and undergo training. Anyone here can correct me.
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....Tenjitsu, the unarmed fighting in ninjitsu isnt very complex and revolved around quick breaks, joint locks, and throws. There are several schools throughout Japan and a few in America. I dont see a point to taking it though.

Unless you want to learn the (real) Japanese names of unarmed Ninjutsu techniques... Taihonjutsu. (Taijutsu )
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Oh, my bad. Sorry I dont know more about a forgotten art

Join a MT, Sambo, BJJ, or Shootfighting gym. Dont get caught up in styles that dont compliment a fighter as well as it could. Life isnt like tekken or the karate kid. Go to a real gym and stop living in a fantasy world.
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Your links are good ones, especially the first. The only problem I have is the second one links to Rick Tews martial science page. Personally, based on what I've read on his page, I don't really think he's all that.

No offense taken. There are a lot of people out there taking the "fantasy" art. I have been studying ninjitsu for a while. I've been in it long enough to make minor and some major modifications to the art to fit my body and movement style, as does any decent practioner of any art. I have found it to be extremely effective and even realistic, after the "dojo etiquette" has been removed, however unorthodox which is why most people turn from it, .

I have also studied Sambo (ROSS), which you listed in a later post, and found that in terms of understanding of the martial sciences, there were several elements they just did not understand. The techniques were sound, but unfortunately the art is just too young in the US and we lack enough qualified instructors. I studied while at Millersville University, which was the first university to have such a class (we beat E-town by a month) where Scott Sonnon himself led the class for the first semester before turning it over to Scott Fable. Of course, the art always depends on the instructor, but being this close to Sonnon, I would have expected more from his direct students.

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I have also studied Sambo (ROSS), which you listed in a later post, and found that in terms of understanding of the martial sciences, there were several elements they just did not understand....
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The reason behind the lacking is interesting and is related to the cold war...

the system is only a fraction of the game it once was. Real Sambo is not just an unarmed sport.

Ironic really. With all the recent hype about the ultimate Russian martial art.


Tell me more about your training in R.O.S.S. otherwise known as Rossijskaya Otechestvennaya Sistema Samozashchity.

(if you don't mind me asking)
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Tell me more about your training in R.O.S.S. otherwise known as Rossijskaya Otechestvennaya Sistema Samozashchity.

(if you don't mind me asking)
Us asking...Im interested as well.
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