Darkoato

Not neceassarily assassination, but what art offers the best "take em down quick" methods of fighting?

The reason being is boxing seems to be too unrealistic in a life-or-death situation, karate seems too move-dependent based, and TKD seems like a women's sport.

What I'm saying is that I need something that's extremely effective that I can really work on to get better.


Take Jet Li for example. In his movies he takes on multiple attackers all the time. I know that's just Hollywood, but I'd like something to that effect

Any suggestions?

Darkoato

Tom Yum

If you are going to study a traditional martial art, the likes
of Jet Li and his skills, it will take you many, many years to perfect. Traditional martial arts tend to move at a slower pace than other arts, allbeit they can and do work.

Boxing can be learned and applied rather quickly and effectively, but is limited to stand up fighting.

At the end of the day, its the man not the art that makes the fighter.

Darkoato

That's what I mean. I'm 17 years old, and I have plenty of time to master an art. (I say master in means of perfecting my abilities)

I've been taking ninjutsu for almost 6 months now, and I can safely say that it is an exceptional art (the bujinkan). The only downside, however, is that it doesn't necessarily teach you "how" to fight, but teaches you how to handle current situations.

I guess breaking limbs and the like would be good whilst training in ninjutsu, but if I ever had to face more than 1 attacker it would become exceedingly more difficult.


That's why I thought of Jet Li and what he does. He's built to take a beating, and can surely dish it out. This new art that I will soon take plus my continuation of ninjutsu throughout the years could yield me to become a supreme fighter.

Also note that I am highly dedicated with whatever I do, and will do what it takes to become the best. I just wish I learned about martial arts sooner.


With that said, I have to humbly ask what the difference between traditional and non-traditional martial arts are.

And what makes traditional so hard to perfect? Is it the complexity of the art, the time it takes to learn everything, or just the fact that it's not good until you can become good at it (the art won't really help you unless you become a master at it).

I say this because ninjutsu and the bujinkan are extremely helpful, but it takes an exceedingly long time to learn and become quite good at it. I was told to think of it like a doctor vs. an EMT. EMT's might be trained to handle situations fast, but the experience a doctor gets in his 8+ years of schooling will put his dedication and long-time learning commitment far beyond anything an EMT could possibly dream of.

Please let me know what you think,

Otto

Darkoato

Also, as far as building power and speed for martial arts....

I was told numerous things. I've heard that low reps with high weight (90% of your max) with numerous sets improve power. I've also heard high reps with low weight and high sets improves power.

I've ALSO heard that low reps with high weight and low sets improve strength.

So which is it? What separates strength building from mass building? I do not wish to gain mass (if at all possible) but want to drastically increase my power. (Like Jet Li)

So my question basically is how can I become as fast and strong as possible?

Otto

Tom Yum

Traditional arts have a broad range of skills that you have to perfect slowly. Most traditional arts are aimed for people who are not regularly athletic or looking to learn how to fight, rather they build better people by teaching physical fitness, respect, discipline, culture and self defense.

Modern arts or combat sports are all about building up a fighter or someone who can work against an opponent.

If one is more focused in modern arts, you have fewer skills to perfect but are able to use them frequently and against resistance. The result is someone who can pick up kickboxing for example in 3-4 months and have used it at good speed and decent contact.

Working in a more traditional art, you do develop more ranges of fighting but at a much slower pace since combat is not the sole focus.

Hope that helps.

There are also some arts that are traditional and more combat focused, like silat, kenpo, wingchun, tangsoo, jiujitsu.

Darkoato

So If I wanted to become a real good fighter (strong, fast, able to take down opponents easily) what would I do?

Would traditional make me a better fighter in the long run, or is it limited? But then again, people like Bruce Lee and Jet Li could take down kickboxers.

So if I want to be able to own boxers what should I take?

And please don't tell me "the best art for you" stuff because I've heard that enough already and just need a straight up answer :0

Jason

Darkoato

Can I ask what art you are in?

BoarSpear

Take the red pill...

Darkoato

No, seriously

Tom Yum

The blue pill?

Darkoato

Ok, going back to an above post, which would make me a better fighter in the long run?

Kickboxing and strength training all the time

or

Kenpo over the course of 10 years? I mean, does kickboxing have its limits when going up against a kempo master?

And if I wanted to train for strength and speed what should I do? High reps, low reps, high weight, low weight?

Please I need an answer



and Tom, what art are you in?

BoarSpear

Sounds like youre seeking the secret to the martial arts...is that it? if so just so say so...stop beating around the bush

people already told you its the man in the art, not the art in the man...
of course a complete system will build a complete MA's...Kickboxing will build a complete kickboxer...which one makes better fighters? see the man in the art reference earlier.

Oh yeah, if you were seeking the secret to the martial arts, lemmie know, i will be happy to share it with you

BoarSpear

Hey tom, nice avatar but i was used to the old one

Darkoato

What IS the secret to martial arts?

And I don't believe in UFC and MMA and whatnot. Yes, they may be as strong as hell, but I believe martial arts to be able to kill someone (as a survival method -- I guess I have too much ninjutsu in me).

So with that said, which art would be the most effective in the long run to be able to totally take someone out (and essentially own up on the UFC fighters)

BoarSpear

Well now martial arts and the UFC are 2 different animals...but thats a different war however the secret of being the best at either one is the same...however its a secret and i probably shouldnt just post it on an open forum

So maybe you should PM me instead...be aware though being good at one does not mean you are a good example of the other...you can be a ufc legend think tank abbott i wouldnt classify him as a martial artist, and we saw plenty of so called martial artists get tapped by gjj/bjj people.

and one last thing, i rethought the secret of the martial arts thing, i probably shouldnt go the pm route either, then i will just get 50 gillion pms wanting the secret...so i guess people will just have to deal because here it is for everyone who doesnt know already that " the secret of the martial arts is 3 simple words, Practice....practice.....practice" ~Sun Luc Tang~