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Old 04-24-2007, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Despite being flashy, Corbell's throws are crisp and his control is impressive. I like the energy that he brings to his demos. What do you guys think?

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Old 04-27-2007, 02:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Very, very reminscent of hapkido and hwarangdo.
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Very, very reminscent of hapkido and hwarangdo.
It looked just like modern jujitsu mixed with sambo to me. There was even a capoeira Aú batido in there. Very fast and very sharp. If you look at the man's technique there was very little fumbling around.

I only put this up here for those who might have thought that today's jujitsu had to look like a judo match.
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Nice, I wouldn't want to be his uke. He would have to really slow down in order to give an effective seminar. Some of his moves remind me of Brazillian Capeora {sp}
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Nice, I wouldn't want to be his uke.
You should want to be. Its the best and most efficient way to learn.
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You should want to be. Its the best and most efficient way to learn.
I don't think so Bro!!! Taking hard slams is hard on your body especially at age 50. Also, you gotta trust your Tori because when You tap, you want somebody who is going to immediately stop cranking. LOL
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I have trained with men who are doing ukemi well into their 80's, and they will tell you the same thing I did above.

How hard you slam is based upon how good your ukemi is. When I came up, you couldn't say that you had your ukemi down until you could do every single fall and roll in the street, and that makes sense because after all you're training to fall in the street, not the dojo. Breakfalls are beginner's stuff in the systems I came up in. So is pain tolerance.

A friend of mine didn't get active in ukemi until he was 47. It was rough on him because he still had the fear of falling and he was a big guy, but he ate it and stuck with it. He can do flying(tobu) ukemi now.
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I have trained with men who are doing ukemi well into their 80's, and they will tell you the same thing I did above.

How hard you slam is based upon how good your ukemi is. When I came up, you couldn't say that you had your ukemi down until you could do every single fall and roll in the street, and that makes sense because after all you're training to fall in the street, not the dojo. Breakfalls are beginner's stuff in the systems I came up in. So is pain tolerance.

A friend of mine didn't get active in ukemi until he was 47. It was rough on him because he still had the fear of falling and he was a big guy, but he ate it and stuck with it. He can do flying(tobu) ukemi now.
Part of my problem is lifting weights for 40 years. <Yes, I started around age 10>. I'm muscle bound and when someone applies an upperbody lock on me, It hurts like hell if Tori doesn't release when I tap. LOL

Yea, we have a couple of 4th Dans at my dojo who pride themselves on the flying ukemis. I don't see the point in flying ukemis. They have no legitimate combat application except to make tori look good---which no disrespect intented, is a form of fraud.
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Part of my problem is lifting weights for 40 years. <Yes, I started around age 10>. I'm muscle bound and when someone applies an upperbody lock on me, It hurts like hell if Tori doesn't release when I tap. LOL

Yea, we have a couple of 4th Dans at my dojo who pride themselves on the flying ukemis. I don't see the point in flying ukemis. They have no legitimate combat application except to make tori look good---which no disrespect intented, is a form of fraud.
I beg to differ. A dojo brother of mine rolled out of a motorcycle accident that should have took him out using flying ukemi. Other have used its application to survive slips down a flight of stairs.

There are plenty of practical applications of flying ukemi. Not necessarily combat related, but it saves lives nonetheless. Its a matter of experience and insight.
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I beg to differ. A dojo brother of mine rolled out of a motorcycle accident that should have took him out using flying ukemi. Other have used its application to survive slips down a flight of stairs.

There are plenty of practical applications of flying ukemi. Not necessarily combat related, but it saves lives nonetheless. Its a matter of experience and insight.
Well you just proved it yourself. No real COMBAT application for flying ukemi. Not trying to be contentious I just took offense when said 4th dan told me that I should be doing flying ukemis at 1st dan. What the F&^*. I told him everyone has their own strengths and weaknessess.
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Well you just proved it yourself. No real COMBAT application for flying ukemi. Not trying to be contentious I just took offense when said 4th dan told me that I should be doing flying ukemis at 1st dan. What the F&^*. I told him everyone has their own strengths and weaknessess.
Actually, I never said that there weren't combat applications for flying ukemi. I've seen big men knocked out cold from being hit by flying ukemi. I said not necessarilycombat applications. If you don't know the value of flying ukemi then its not your fault. Its the fault of your teacher.

And in systems that practice flying ukemi, you should be able to do it at 1st dan. Maybe even before. But you are correct. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, just as some systems place emphasis on different aspects. If you have difficulty performing flying ukemi but can perform ukemi like free side falls and forward flip, then its a matter of fear, not a physical limitation.

With your size, I suspect you believe that its a case of flexibility or mobility, which is wrong. Its the ability to relax during the fall and keep proper form. That's basic and I'm sure you know that by now.

But before you can master flying ukemi, you have to learn that ukemi is not only about breakfalls but about feeling and understanding the motion that drives the fall. Its all about mastering motion.
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Actually, I never said that there weren't combat applications for flying ukemi. I've seen big men knocked out cold from being hit by flying ukemi. I said not necessarilycombat applications. If you don't know the value of flying ukemi then its not your fault. Its the fault of your teacher.

And in systems that practice flying ukemi, you should be able to do it at 1st dan. Maybe even before. But you are correct. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, just as some systems place emphasis on different aspects. If you have difficulty performing flying ukemi but can perform ukemi like free side falls and forward flip, then its a matter of fear, not a physical limitation.

With your size, I suspect you believe that its a case of flexibility or mobility, which is wrong. Its the ability to relax during the fall and keep proper form. That's basic and I'm sure you know that by now.

But before you can master flying ukemi, you have to learn that ukemi is not only about breakfalls but about feeling and understanding the motion that drives the fall. Its all about mastering motion.
Unfortunately I have no choice. The flying ukemis seem to be a popular technique and If I plan to stay at this particular dojo I have to learn to do them. I'll need to go back and reread what you wrote several times and then try to apply it to practice. Any additional suggestions on how to get started would be appreciated.
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Unfortunately I have no choice. The flying ukemis seem to be a popular technique and If I plan to stay at this particular dojo I have to learn to do them. I'll need to go back and reread what you wrote several times and then try to apply it to practice. Any additional suggestions on how to get started would be appreciated.
Have you gotten your regular ukemi down? Face fall, side falls, back fall, forward roll, side rolls, back roll, free side fall, front flip? If so, you just need to realize that the difference is in the force that drives the fall. Its timing and feeling your way through the falls and rolls.

Unless you have bad form or bad understanding of basics, then I suspect that it is fear that drives your inability to perform flying ukemi. Master the forward roll. Then jump into it, sort of like superman. I'm sure you know what I mean. Not high, but enough so that you've got both feet off the ground. Make sure you land smoothly and quietly. Roll along the blade of the arm and follow through. Let the momentum carry you. Just relax in the form and let yourself roll. If you can do it slowly, then just gradually increase the speed and force of the roll. Soon, you'll be able to take off with it.

Practice on your own time. This way you won't feel pressured. Occasionally let your seniors critique your form just for pointers, and then continue to work on it.
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Thanks. Yea, I have the other ukemis down. I didn't mention but I am a transfer student. I have been shodan for 3 years, with the last year at a new dojo. I catch lots of criticisim on my ukemi form; from the head instructor who is a 9th Dan and is 64 years old. Recently he says I am improving. My old instructor and old dojo never really critiqued ukemis that hard--we just did them and no one noticed any bad form. Thus I am stuck in 10 years of bad form. The popular ukemis at my new dojo are when they uke for the head instructor. They "Fly" which makes him look good and he loves it. I'm going to work on it. Part of the problem is that I have rehabbed shoulders (Impingement) and it may be a block in my subconcious. I think I'll try visualization and mediation first. Any more suggestions welcomed.
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Ive seen these clips before. Great stuff but some of the shit he does is ridiculous. I love the throw at :38 seconds in the first clip.
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