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Old 06-27-2007, 10:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Sure, but the initial thread talked vaguely about aikido with no reference to weapons and then Arieson made a claim that aikido was the art used by the samurai, so I assumed we were talking about which empty handed martial art resembled the samurai's since weapon arts weren't mentioned...


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No, I meant it was a close and direct ancestor to Samurai. JuJutsu was the empty hand art the Samurai used. But Aikido (and Judo and Karate-do) all came from JuJutsu, correct? Judo and Karate also have this lineage, but they really don't talk about sword and sword movements as much as Aikido. I don't know, but I like Aikido. I understand the inherent weakness in any art that does not use live training, though. For a guy like me (Older) getting my ass kicked and beaten every night in the dojo is not an option. Heck, I love and respect BJJ, but no WAY am I signing up!!! I can't be out of work for a few months recouperating from a dislocation or wrenched neck!!
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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You should study the actual history a little more. You might find it interesting.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:12 AM   #18 (permalink)
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For our own edification:

Aikido
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido

Developed by Ueshiba as an expression of universal peace and reconcilliation aikido was synthesized primarily from Daito-ryu Aiki-jujitsu.

Additional styles incorporated into the system: Ten-jin shinyo ryu, Gotoha Yagyu Singan-ryu and Judo.

Its technical structure is derived from kenjutsu (jubaji and Arieson were right all along).

Weapons include staff, spear and bayonet.

Daito-ryu Aiki-jujutsu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daito-ryu_aiki-jujutsu

Its translated as the "great estern style" and stylisticcally described as the 'harder' father style of aikido, the art also includes sword techniques from a style called Ono-ha Itto ryu.

Jujitsu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujutsu#Origins
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Why is everyone so enamoured with samurai?
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What's cool about being a servant?
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I guess you are. Kinda sounds like you spent more time looking up the word than the history, btw.
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I looked nothing up.

Samurai and Bushi are not always interchangeable.
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I thought his name was Scott?
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I thought his name was Scott?


Another name comes to mind...
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