terminology?

kwai chang pain · 11-30-2007, 07:33 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but what does "ussss" mean? And other noises like
"uuuu saa"?

I trained w/ a guy who had a Shotokan background and he used to say "uss" when he bowed and make a lot of weird noises during demos. Heard the same kind of terminology when I watched a Vee Jitsu DVD. Just curious.

Mike Brewer · 11-30-2007, 08:20 PM

I think it started out as a way to make sure a person was both flexing their abdominals and breathing out while keeping a clenched jaw. Both are good ideas while hitting and potentially getting hit, so I imagine that was the original intent. It doesn't stop me from half-peeing myself when I hear people making kung-fu movie noises during a sparring match or a fight, though. These days, I think some folks (I believe they are referred to in the industry as "douchebags") believe such noises are cool.

But I could be wrong.

kwai chang pain · 11-30-2007, 09:45 PM

I couldn't agree more. One time this guy said "usss" or something like it and my instructor said, "What did you fart or something?".

Looks/sounds like a bunch of showy bullshit to me.

BudoTiger · 12-19-2007, 02:12 PM

the term "Oss" is an acknowledgement used in when bowing in alot of japanese styles like shito ryu, and its off shoots (shitokai, shukokai, etc).

the "kiai" is used to focus energy into a strike and also helps breathing in new students.

jubaji · 12-19-2007, 06:38 PM

Wouldn't breathing in new students cause lung damage?

Mr. Arieson · 12-19-2007, 08:36 PM

Are you attempting to be humorous?

Are jokes like this the reason your students walk out on you at your School in the Castro district?

Or is it the fact that you are an evil right wing republican, and none of your students want to hear about Monica Lewinsky's stained dress for the 746th time, when the class was supposed to be about Ancient imperial China?

jubaji · 12-19-2007, 09:19 PM

Been sampling Cheech's stuff, D.I.?

Mr. Arieson · 12-20-2007, 04:19 PM

" I don't need this stuff to escape reality. I AM Reality"

Sgt. Barnes

**Hardball** · 12-20-2007, 08:33 PM

They used Uss at my shotokan Dojo also. It's a basic custom and greeting. It scares the shit out of newbies and whitebelts. LOL

Mdrnsamurai · 12-21-2007, 08:46 PM

http://www.24fightingchickens.com/20...-usage-of-osu/
This Link will explain the proper usage of Osu, which I assume is what you are referring to.

Train Hard, Stay Safe,
Good Luck

Kimpatsu · 01-08-2008, 01:49 AM

Many Male Japanese office workers greet each other with "oss", which is both a contraction of oyaho gozaimasu and designed to make them look tough in the eyes of their peers. Business is war, and they're not lemmings, they're corporate warriors, don'tcha know...?

jubaji · 01-08-2008, 02:18 AM

Oh brother, look who's back...

Kimpatsu · 01-08-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubaji

Oh brother, look who's back...

Yes, by invitation.
Will you ever cease to behave like a petulant teenager? Enquiring minds want to know...

bodhisattva · 01-08-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BudoTiger

the term "Oss" is an acknowledgement used in when bowing in alot of japanese styles like shito ryu, and its off shoots (shitokai, shukokai, etc).

the "kiai" is used to focus energy into a strike and also helps breathing in new students.

When I found out the japanese word "Kiai" is not a shout, but actually translates to "fighting energy" I found it damned hillarious that all these "fighting students" are shouting it.

I tried to imagine a Japanese person learning boxing, and being told to shout the english words "FIGHTING ENERGY" when he punches, to increase the power of his punch.

Pretty damned funny.

bodhisattva · 01-08-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardball

They used Uss at my shotokan Dojo also. It's a basic custom and greeting. It scares the shit out of newbies and whitebelts. LOL

They are scared of a foreign word?

Why would someone fear a word - hell, not even a word, a phonetic utterance?

11-30-2007, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
kwai chang pain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 91	terminology? Forgive my ignorance, but what does "ussss" mean? And other noises like "uuuu saa"? I trained w/ a guy who had a Shotokan background and he used to say "uss" when he bowed and make a lot of weird noises during demos. Heard the same kind of terminology when I watched a Vee Jitsu DVD. Just curious. __________________ May your knuckles always drip with the blood of your enemies.

11-30-2007, 09:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
kwai chang pain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 91	I couldn't agree more. One time this guy said "usss" or something like it and my instructor said, "What did you fart or something?". Looks/sounds like a bunch of showy bullshit to me. __________________ May your knuckles always drip with the blood of your enemies.

12-19-2007, 06:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,403	Wouldn't breathing in new students cause lung damage? __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

12-19-2007, 09:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,403	Been sampling Cheech's stuff, D.I.? __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

12-20-2007, 08:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hardball Premiere Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,235	They used Uss at my shotokan Dojo also. It's a basic custom and greeting. It scares the shit out of newbies and whitebelts. LOL __________________ The Way of the Warrior is Practice. Daily practice, accumulate practice minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day. {Book of 5 Rings} Mike Brewers 2008 Sit up challenge 30,000/100,000 running balance.(Crunches) Kicks 6,300/100,000

11-30-2007, 08:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mike Brewer Moderate Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,139	I think it started out as a way to make sure a person was both flexing their abdominals and breathing out while keeping a clenched jaw. Both are good ideas while hitting and potentially getting hit, so I imagine that was the original intent. It doesn't stop me from half-peeing myself when I hear people making kung-fu movie noises during a sparring match or a fight, though. These days, I think some folks (I believe they are referred to in the industry as "douchebags") believe such noises are cool. But I could be wrong.

12-19-2007, 02:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
BudoTiger Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11	the term "Oss" is an acknowledgement used in when bowing in alot of japanese styles like shito ryu, and its off shoots (shitokai, shukokai, etc). the "kiai" is used to focus energy into a strike and also helps breathing in new students.

12-19-2007, 08:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Arieson Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 846	Are you attempting to be humorous? Are jokes like this the reason your students walk out on you at your School in the Castro district? Or is it the fact that you are an evil right wing republican, and none of your students want to hear about Monica Lewinsky's stained dress for the 746th time, when the class was supposed to be about Ancient imperial China?

12-20-2007, 04:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Arieson Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 846	" I don't need this stuff to escape reality. I AM Reality" Sgt. Barnes

12-21-2007, 08:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mdrnsamurai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York, New York Posts: 11	http://www.24fightingchickens.com/20...-usage-of-osu/ This Link will explain the proper usage of Osu, which I assume is what you are referring to. Train Hard, Stay Safe, Good Luck __________________ There is no Boundary in the way of flexibility, and the heart shall see no enemy. Mifune, Kyuzo Judo 10th Dan

01-08-2008, 01:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Kimpatsu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 252	Many Male Japanese office workers greet each other with "oss", which is both a contraction of oyaho gozaimasu and designed to make them look tough in the eyes of their peers. Business is war, and they're not lemmings, they're corporate warriors, don'tcha know...? __________________ I only do Shorinji Kempo for kicks. --- "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."--Thomas Paine

01-08-2008, 02:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,403	Oh brother, look who's back... __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Terminology and techniques	Big Kahuna	Thaiboxing and Kickboxing	10	01-24-2006 06:38 AM
Need help with Muay Thai terminology	Miller	Thaiboxing and Kickboxing	2	08-24-2005 07:59 AM
wrong use of terminology (e.g. Broken Rythem)	Toudiyama[NL]	Open Access	5	09-08-2004 02:49 PM
question about terminology	jobber-d	Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) & BJJ Forum	3	09-22-2001 08:00 PM
basic terminology question	quietanswer	Filipino Martial Arts	2	12-08-2000 06:15 PM